hi all- doug fales and i put together a little peice on rails which appears in linuxjournal today. it''s more about advocacy than teaching, which curt hibbs has been doing a terrific job at. speaking of curt, he sort of set a precedent after his last article by asking people to slashdot it and i thought that was a great idea; so, if you are so inclined, it would great to see this up there over the weekend. http://www.linuxjournal.com/ http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8217 all the best. -a -- ==============================================================================| email :: ara [dot] t [dot] howard [at] noaa [dot] gov | phone :: 303.497.6469 | if you love the sacred and despise the ordinary, you are still bobbing in the | ocean of delusion. --lin-chi ===============================================================================