Rails - Feb 2005 - Rails CMS(with live demo): community response needed

Hi!

First,  let me introduce myself and my project. 
I''m Dmitry Sabanin from Russia, where I own small web-development 
company where we use Ruby quite heavily for a couple of years now. 
After early Rails I''ve been following it''s development and
started
writing Rails CMS that will make my job as a lead developer easier 
and more productive. After few tries, I''ve come up with following 
idea. 
Rails by itself makes interfaces that visitor interacts with much 
easier to develop, so I''ve decided to create CMS that will manage 
only _content_ and it''s structure, not the way it will be shown to 
user. My CMS gives you the power to manage content and API that you 
can use in your Rails frontend. Wrting frontends is as easy as 
creating an empty controller, requiring MuraveyWeb API and writing a 
view like:
<% for news in Mapping[:News].items %>
 <b><%= news.title %>:</b> <%= news.data %>
<% end %>

MuraveyWeb itself is a W3C JS powered monster, with explorer-like 
folder interface, for now it works only with Mozillas. There are many 
neat things as WYSIWYG HTML editor, textile articles support and 
server-side image transformations(just a rotation tool for now).

And now -- the problem. I don''t have much time to develop all this and 
the project stalled with rails version 0.9.3. Also, there''s a lot of 
things I want to add to the system. That''s not a big problem for me 
to find time and migrate to the newest Rails and start developing 
MuraveyWeb again. But, I need to know that somebody wants CMS like 
this and will use it. I don''t want to invest my time in something 
that nobody wants :)
I can make official release in a week or two if there are any 
potential users around. I will offer any help that I can give to 
those who will want to try that.

---------
If that interests you, I''ve setup a copy of my clients site MuraveyWeb 
at the http://tools.muravey.net/login/
login: demo  
password: demo

Please make sure that you''re browsing that with Mozilla or Firefox, as 
it''s not IE compatible yet. Also, there are some visible layout bugs 
that could appear in some places, that''s mainly because I usually 
develop everything at 1600x1200. Those will be fixed in no time.
---------

You can do whatever you want, but make sure you don''t change password 
on users, so anyone else will be able to play too.

P.S. The code for MW is in CVS, so you can see it, but I''m sure it 
will not work on new Rails because it need some tweaking. 
http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/MuraveyWeb/?cvsroot=muravey-tools

P.P.S. Sorry for my messy english :)

Thanks for your time, 
-- 
sdmitry -=- Dmitry V. Sabanin
http://muravey.net

It sounds like you have a good solution. I''d be interested in seeing
it,
speaking for myself, and I imagine other people would as well.

If you can''t invest the time to continue to develop it, perhaps
consider
open sourcing it so that some of us can contribute to it?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dmitry V. Sabanin" <sdmitry-okj3p8EEQC8@public.gmane.org>
To: <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:53 PM
Subject: [Rails] [ANN] Rails CMS(with live demo): community response needed

> Hi!
>
> First,  let me introduce myself and my project.
> I''m Dmitry Sabanin from Russia, where I own small web-development
> company where we use Ruby quite heavily for a couple of years now.
> After early Rails I''ve been following it''s development
and started
> writing Rails CMS that will make my job as a lead developer easier
> and more productive. After few tries, I''ve come up with following
> idea.
> Rails by itself makes interfaces that visitor interacts with much
> easier to develop, so I''ve decided to create CMS that will manage
> only _content_ and it''s structure, not the way it will be shown to
> user. My CMS gives you the power to manage content and API that you
> can use in your Rails frontend. Wrting frontends is as easy as
> creating an empty controller, requiring MuraveyWeb API and writing a
> view like:
> <% for news in Mapping[:News].items %>
> <b><%= news.title %>:</b> <%= news.data %>
> <% end %>
>
> MuraveyWeb itself is a W3C JS powered monster, with explorer-like
> folder interface, for now it works only with Mozillas. There are many
> neat things as WYSIWYG HTML editor, textile articles support and
> server-side image transformations(just a rotation tool for now).
>
> And now -- the problem. I don''t have much time to develop all this
and
> the project stalled with rails version 0.9.3. Also, there''s a lot
of
> things I want to add to the system. That''s not a big problem for
me
> to find time and migrate to the newest Rails and start developing
> MuraveyWeb again. But, I need to know that somebody wants CMS like
> this and will use it. I don''t want to invest my time in something
> that nobody wants :)
> I can make official release in a week or two if there are any
> potential users around. I will offer any help that I can give to
> those who will want to try that.
>
> ---------
> If that interests you, I''ve setup a copy of my clients site
MuraveyWeb
> at the http://tools.muravey.net/login/
> login: demo
> password: demo
>
> Please make sure that you''re browsing that with Mozilla or
Firefox, as
> it''s not IE compatible yet. Also, there are some visible layout
bugs
> that could appear in some places, that''s mainly because I usually
> develop everything at 1600x1200. Those will be fixed in no time.
> ---------
>
> You can do whatever you want, but make sure you don''t change
password
> on users, so anyone else will be able to play too.
>
> P.S. The code for MW is in CVS, so you can see it, but I''m sure it
> will not work on new Rails because it need some tweaking.
> http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/MuraveyWeb/?cvsroot=muravey-tools
>
> P.P.S. Sorry for my messy english :)
>
> Thanks for your time,
> -- 
> sdmitry -=- Dmitry V. Sabanin
> http://muravey.net
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>

On Sunday 27 February 2005 17:59, jason watkins wrote:
> It sounds like you have a good solution. 
Thanks!
> I''d be interested in seeing it, speaking for myself, and I imagine
> other people would as well. 
>
> If you can''t invest the time to continue to develop it, perhaps
> consider open sourcing it so that some of us can contribute to it?
>
Well, it''s already open sourced, that was my plan from the beginning. 
Development stalled because of my personal problems with time and now 
I want to start it again, since I still need a good CMS for my biz. 
If I''ll recieve any positive response about what I already did, then I 
hope there will be release with many bugfixes and improvements soon.

-- 
sdmitry -=- Dmitry V. Sabanin
http://muravey.net

I would be very interested in something like this. So far I''m trying to
use RoR for backends because I have my own CMs built in PHP and need 
something quick there. But I like very much what you have done with this 
CMS and would like to use it very much (specially if you port it over to 
0.10.0). Whenever I obtain more RoR Zen I would love to port some of my 
PHP stuff over.

Anyway, thanks for your sharing.


Adrian Madrid

Dmitry V. Sabanin wrote:
>Hi!
>
>First,  let me introduce myself and my project. 
>I''m Dmitry Sabanin from Russia, where I own small web-development 
>company where we use Ruby quite heavily for a couple of years now. 
>After early Rails I''ve been following it''s development and
started
>writing Rails CMS that will make my job as a lead developer easier 
>and more productive. After few tries, I''ve come up with following 
>idea. 
>Rails by itself makes interfaces that visitor interacts with much 
>easier to develop, so I''ve decided to create CMS that will manage 
>only _content_ and it''s structure, not the way it will be shown to 
>user. My CMS gives you the power to manage content and API that you 
>can use in your Rails frontend. Wrting frontends is as easy as 
>creating an empty controller, requiring MuraveyWeb API and writing a 
>view like:
><% for news in Mapping[:News].items %>
> <b><%= news.title %>:</b> <%= news.data %>
><% end %>
>
>MuraveyWeb itself is a W3C JS powered monster, with explorer-like 
>folder interface, for now it works only with Mozillas. There are many 
>neat things as WYSIWYG HTML editor, textile articles support and 
>server-side image transformations(just a rotation tool for now).
>
>And now -- the problem. I don''t have much time to develop all this
and
>the project stalled with rails version 0.9.3. Also, there''s a lot
of
>things I want to add to the system. That''s not a big problem for me
>to find time and migrate to the newest Rails and start developing 
>MuraveyWeb again. But, I need to know that somebody wants CMS like 
>this and will use it. I don''t want to invest my time in something 
>that nobody wants :)
>I can make official release in a week or two if there are any 
>potential users around. I will offer any help that I can give to 
>those who will want to try that.
>
>---------
>If that interests you, I''ve setup a copy of my clients site
MuraveyWeb
>at the http://tools.muravey.net/login/
>login: demo  
>password: demo
>
>Please make sure that you''re browsing that with Mozilla or Firefox,
as
>it''s not IE compatible yet. Also, there are some visible layout
bugs
>that could appear in some places, that''s mainly because I usually 
>develop everything at 1600x1200. Those will be fixed in no time.
>---------
>
>You can do whatever you want, but make sure you don''t change
password
>on users, so anyone else will be able to play too.
>
>P.S. The code for MW is in CVS, so you can see it, but I''m sure it 
>will not work on new Rails because it need some tweaking. 
>http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/MuraveyWeb/?cvsroot=muravey-tools
>
>P.P.S. Sorry for my messy english :)
>
>Thanks for your time, 
>  
>

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