Lorenzo Isella
2018-Apr-18 13:47 UTC
[R] Reasons to Use R in a Public Administrations and Ideas for a Short Training
Dear All, Ages ago I posted to this mailing list asking for advice about to evangelize the use of R in an international public administration where the fact that R is free is not a decisive factor (actually its being "freeware" may even be seen negatively). After a long time, I think it is worthwhile asking the question again and see what suggestions other users have. Another question related to that: let's say you have the possibility to give a short course (most likely short of 10 hours) to people who are not trained in statistics (people with a background in international relations or political scientists frustrated at Excel and who sometimes have to do a number of repetitive tasks). How would you formulate a short training to make them not R proficient users, but aware and looking forward to learning more about R? Any suggestion and/or pointer to online resources is appreciated. Many thanks Lorenzo
David L Carlson
2018-Apr-18 14:12 UTC
[R] Reasons to Use R in a Public Administrations and Ideas for a Short Training
Courses are good for people who are motivated to learn. It sounds like you need to generate the motivation first. Why not develop 4 - 5 case study examples? Kinds of analyses currently performed on Excel that would be easier to replicate and repeat using simple R scripts so that you are showing how it would be done in Excel and then how it would be done in R structuring the code so that running a similar analysis requires only minor adjustments in contrast to Excel which might involve copying formula blocks into a new spreadsheet tab or creating templates that fail and are hard to debug. ---------------------------------------- David L Carlson Department of Anthropology Texas A&M University College Station, TX 77843-4352 -----Original Message----- From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Lorenzo Isella Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:47 AM To: r-help at r-project.org Subject: [R] Reasons to Use R in a Public Administrations and Ideas for a Short Training Dear All, Ages ago I posted to this mailing list asking for advice about to evangelize the use of R in an international public administration where the fact that R is free is not a decisive factor (actually its being "freeware" may even be seen negatively). After a long time, I think it is worthwhile asking the question again and see what suggestions other users have. Another question related to that: let's say you have the possibility to give a short course (most likely short of 10 hours) to people who are not trained in statistics (people with a background in international relations or political scientists frustrated at Excel and who sometimes have to do a number of repetitive tasks). How would you formulate a short training to make them not R proficient users, but aware and looking forward to learning more about R? Any suggestion and/or pointer to online resources is appreciated. Many thanks Lorenzo ______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Thierry Onkelinx
2018-Apr-19 15:10 UTC
[R] Reasons to Use R in a Public Administrations and Ideas for a Short Training
Dear Lorenzo, First of all I would focus on topics which immediately usable by your audience. E.g. making figures and tables based on preprocessed data files (txt, Excel, GoogleSheets, data base query, ...). And pick examples in which the definition of the figures and tables remains more or less stable but the data is updated with some frequency. In a next step you could focus on processing the data. I would even skip the step of writing R scripts and start with basic R notebooks. The ability to include both plain text and code into one source document is very useful for repetitive tasks. And you significantly reduce the need to copy/paste results. Think about a list of packages which you can recommend to your audience. I would consider the tidyverse collection. Best regards, ir. Thierry Onkelinx Statisticus / Statistician Vlaamse Overheid / Government of Flanders INSTITUUT VOOR NATUUR- EN BOSONDERZOEK / RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOR NATURE AND FOREST Team Biometrie & Kwaliteitszorg / Team Biometrics & Quality Assurance thierry.onkelinx at inbo.be Havenlaan 88 bus 73, 1000 Brussel www.inbo.be /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// To call in the statistician after the experiment is done may be no more than asking him to perform a post-mortem examination: he may be able to say what the experiment died of. ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher The plural of anecdote is not data. ~ Roger Brinner The combination of some data and an aching desire for an answer does not ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body of data. ~ John Tukey /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 2018-04-18 15:47 GMT+02:00 Lorenzo Isella <lorenzo.isella at gmail.com>:> Dear All, > Ages ago I posted to this mailing list asking for advice about to > evangelize the use of R in an international public > administration where the fact that R is free is not a decisive factor > (actually its being "freeware" may even be seen negatively). After a > long time, I think it is worthwhile asking the question again and see > what suggestions other users have. > > Another question related to that: let's say you have the possibility > to give a short course (most likely short of 10 hours) to people > who are not trained in statistics (people with a background in > international relations or political scientists frustrated at Excel > and who sometimes have to do a number of repetitive tasks). How would > you formulate a short training to make them not R proficient users, > but aware and looking forward to learning more about R? > Any suggestion and/or pointer to online resources is appreciated. > Many thanks > > Lorenzo > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Christopher W Ryan
2018-Apr-19 16:28 UTC
[R] Reasons to Use R in a Public Administrations and Ideas for a Short Training
A few years ago I gave two 5-hour workshops about R to a class of US high school students in a somewhat-accelerated science research class (so these were already science-motivated kids). They had been using mainly Excel, and some SPSS for which the school had a license. Overall they seemed to like the sessions. They started a computer programming club afterward, and some continued to use R. As for motivation, I found it helpful with the kids to contrast the instructions for making a scatterplot in Excel, with the command in R. You can find many long documents on the internet describing how to do it in Excel. Find a long one (I've seen 17 pages) filled with screenshots and many numbered steps ("click here, then click there, then click over here . . . ") Then contrast it with something like plot(force, acceleration) or plot(x,y) It becomes pretty clear which is easier (postponing, for the moment, the question of where x and y came from) Showing cool graphs that could never be made in Excel is also helpful. Lastly, in the international setting you describe, I would emphasize the portability of code. Ask them how, with Excel, they would share their analysis steps with colleagues in another country, for application to the colleagues' data. --Chris Ryan Broome County Health Department Binghamton, NY US On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Lorenzo Isella <lorenzo.isella at gmail.com> wrote:> Dear All, > Ages ago I posted to this mailing list asking for advice about to > evangelize the use of R in an international public > administration where the fact that R is free is not a decisive factor > (actually its being "freeware" may even be seen negatively). After a > long time, I think it is worthwhile asking the question again and see > what suggestions other users have. > > Another question related to that: let's say you have the possibility > to give a short course (most likely short of 10 hours) to people > who are not trained in statistics (people with a background in > international relations or political scientists frustrated at Excel > and who sometimes have to do a number of repetitive tasks). How would > you formulate a short training to make them not R proficient users, > but aware and looking forward to learning more about R? > Any suggestion and/or pointer to online resources is appreciated. > Many thanks > > Lorenzo > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posti > ng-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]