Yes, Rolf -- she seems to think that covariates must be categorical
and predictors categorical -- or maybe it's vice-versa. Anyway, she
apparently has not done any homework (e.g. by reading an Intro to R)
and so doesn't understand the use of modeling formulas in lm() and
thus does not understand the use of contrasts (= dummy variables). As
you said, either stackexchange or perhaps a local consultant is
probably where she should be seeking advice,
Cheers,
Bert
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Clifford Stoll
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Rolf Turner <r.turner at auckland.ac.nz>
wrote:> On 26/11/14 13:57, Kristi Glover wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am wondering how I can separate whether it is covariate or predictor
in
>> the ANOVA analysis. For example
>> A<-structure(list(Machine = c(1L, 1L, 1L, 1L, 1L, 2L, 2L, 2L, 2L,
>> 2L, 3L, 3L, 3L, 3L, 3L), Diameter = c(20L, 25L, 24L, 25L, 32L,
>> 22L, 28L, 22L, 30L, 28L, 21L, 23L, 26L, 21L, 15L), Strength = c(36L,
>> 41L, 39L, 42L, 49L, 40L, 48L, 39L, 45L, 44L, 35L, 37L, 42L, 34L,
>> 32L)), .Names = c("Machine", "Diameter",
"Strength"), class >> "data.frame", row.names = c(NA,
>> -15L))
>> attach(A)
>> b<-aov(Strength~Diameter)
>> summary(b)
>> c<-aov(Strength~Diameter+as.factor(Machine))
>> summary(c)
>> I am confused here whether the "Mechine" is covariate or
predictor. How
>> do I know which one is covariate and predictor?
>> If Machine is predictor (just like Diameter), how I am supposed to
write
>> in the model?
>> is the equation (below) for this one in the condition that the Machine
is
>> predictor?
>> c1<-aov(Strength~Diameter+Machine), ?????. If it is so, it means
that
>> co-variate is dummy variable, right????
>> Your help will really help me to clear the concept.
>
>
>
> (1) Please don't post in HTML; messages with code in them become
unreadable.
>
> (2) This isn't really an R question is it? Possibly better posted to
> stackexchange.
>
> (3) What in your mind is the difference between "covariate" and
"predictor"?
> In my (possibly limited) understanding, the words are synonymous.
>
> (4) Are you perhaps concerned with the difference between a continuous
> predictor and a categorical (factor) predictor?
>
> (5) In your example "Machine" is pretty clearly *categorical*;
the
> numbers 1, 2, and 3 are just *labels* for the machines; their numerical
> value is of no significance. The labels could just as well be
"A", "B"
> and "C", or "melvin", "irving" and
"clyde".
>
> (6) OTOH "Diameter" is pretty obviously interpretable as a
*numerical*
> measurement.
>
> (7) I have no idea what you mean by "If it is so, it means that
co-variate
> is dummy variable, right????" Would you care to translate that into
> English?
>
> cheers,
>
> Rolf Turner
>
>
> --
> Rolf Turner
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