Hi all, I have troubles with doing an anova. So I have the following variables: a variable group with two levels, a continuous variable trait and within each group we have 12 organisms (clone) and for each clone we have 5 replicates. So we want to see if for the variable trait the two groups differ, including the information for the clones. So the dataset looks like: trait group [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
I pressed enter to soon. Again Hi all, I have troubles with doing an anova. So I have the following variables: a variable group with two levels, a continuous variable trait and within each group we have 12 organisms (clone) and for each clone we have 5 replicates. So we want to see if for the variable trait the two groups differ, including the information for the clones. So the dataset looks like: trait group clone ... 1 a1 ... 1 a2 ... ... 1 a12 ... 1 a1 ... ... 2 b1 ... 2 b2 etc trait are just some numbers. So clone is nested in group. Then I don't understand how to make the anova, I was thinking we want to see if there is an effect of group So we built the model aov(trait ~group) but because we also want to include the effect of clone which is a random effect we do aov(trait ~ group + Error(clone)) but because Clone is nested in group we do aov(trait ~ group + Error(group/clone)) but if I do this I get the following output Error: PopulationTNFMF Df Sum Sq Mean Sq PopulationTNFMF 1 0.00917 0.00917 Error: PopulationTNFMF:CloneTNFMF Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F) Residuals 1 0.0001849 0.0001849 Error: Within Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F) Residuals 117 0.02107 0.0001801 and I don't get any p-values, so I guess I'm doing something wrong. Can someone help? Thank you in advance Lynn 2014-08-21 12:08 GMT+02:00 Lynn Govaert <lynn.govaert at gmail.com>:> Hi all, > > I have troubles with doing an anova. So I have the following variables: a > variable group with two levels, a continuous variable trait and within each > group we have 12 organisms (clone) and for each clone we have 5 replicates. > So we want to see if for the variable trait the two groups differ, > including the information for the clones. > > So the dataset looks like: > > trait group >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Hi Lynn, Please read the posting guide, this document: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5963269/how-to-make-a-great-r-reproducible-example and don't post in HTML. (See your own email copied below for why.) Sarah On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Lynn Govaert <lynn.govaert at gmail.com> wrote:> Hi all, > > I have troubles with doing an anova. So I have the following variables: a > variable group with two levels, a continuous variable trait and within each > group we have 12 organisms (clone) and for each clone we have 5 replicates. > So we want to see if for the variable trait the two groups differ, > including the information for the clones. > > So the dataset looks like: > > trait group > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.-- Sarah Goslee http://www.functionaldiversity.org