Hallo zusammen, ich mache zuerst mittels eine Anova eine ?berpr?fung ob in den Daten ein signifikanter Unterschied exisitiert. Danach will ich mittels des TukeyHSD rausfinden, zwischen welchen Gruppe der Unterschied vorliegt. Allerdings wei? ich nicht wie ich die Daten interpretieren soll. Hier erstmal mein R Code: [code] Value<-c(-0.9944999814033508,-0.35850000381469727,0.7063000202178955,-1.774399995803833,-1.080299973487854,0.30550000071525574,1.8499999046325684,-0.4124999940395355,0.5827999711036682,1.7506999969482422,-6.693999767303467,-0.8779000043869019,-1.3408000469207764,1.2560999393463135,-0.10040000081062317,1.8499999046325684,-0.3319000005722046,0.4957999885082245,0.8779000043869019,0.7387999892234802,0.8779000043869019,0.9154000282287598,0.8779000043869019,0.7063000202178955,-1.3408000469207764,0.7063000202178955,-0.3319000005722046,-1.6448999643325806,0.4124999940395355,-1.6448999643325806,-0.8779000043869019,0.7487000226974487,0.4399000108242035,1.8499999046325684,-1.6448999643325806,-2.4323999881744385,1.2265000343322754,-0.4957999885082245,-9.999899864196777,-1.7506999969482422,-1.6448999643325806,-9.999899864196777,0.8779000043869019,-5.06279993057251,0.8779000043869019,-2.9677000045776367,-5.06279993057251,-6.693999767303467,-1.0990500450134277,0.9944999814033508,-0.4677000045776367,-0.35850000381469727,-9.999899864196777,0.5827999711036682,0.7487000226974487,0.7387999892234802,-0.2533000111579895,-9.999899864196777,-1.0363999605178833,0.30550000071525574,-1.1749999523162842,-0.8064000010490417,-9.999899864196777,-0.9944999814033508,-2.478300094604492,-0.1509999930858612,0.4957999885082245,-4.571800231933594,-6.324900150299072,-0.38530001044273376,-1.3408000469207764,-5.93179988861084,-6.693999767303467,-2.9677000045776367,0.8779000043869019,-0.050200000405311584,-1.774399995803833,-0.1509999930858612,-0.23725003004074097,-0.6432999968528748,1.2560999393463135,-0.10040000081062317,0.4399000108242035,-0.7063000202178955,0.9154000282287598,-0.21819999814033508,1.2265000343322754,-0.4124999940395355,0.17640000581741333,-1.4758000373840332,-0.9944999814033508,-1.080299973487854,-0.6432999968528748,-9.999899864196777,-2.0536999702453613,-0.21819999814033508,0.7487000226974487,0.025100000202655792,-1.0363999605178833,-0.050200000405311584,-0.7387999892234802,0.4957999885082245,-1.4758000373840332,-0.7063000202178955,0.17640000581741333,-5.06279993057251,-0.6432999968528748,-1.4758000373840332,-0.9944999814033508,-0.2533000111579895,0.17640000581741333,-0.3319000005722046,0.6776500344276428,0.30550000071525574,-0.050200000405311584,0.5827999711036682,1.2560999393463135,-0.4957999885082245,-0.38530001044273376,0.9944999814033508,-2.4323999881744385,1.1263999938964844,-0.9944999814033508,1.7506999969482422,1.080299973487854,-0.7387999892234802,-1.3408000469207764,0.6128000020980835,-2.0536999702453613,0.7063000202178955,-0.8064000010490417,-0.8779000043869019,-0.050200000405311584,-2.9677000045776367,-0.8779000043869019,-2.0536999702453613,-1.3408000469207764,-1.3408000469207764,-0.38530001044273376,0.7063000202178955,-9.999899864196777,-0.4677000045776367,0.7721999883651733,0.025100000202655792,1.1263999938964844,-6.324900150299072,-0.1509999930858612,-0.4399000108242035,-0.9944999814033508,-0.9944999814033508,-0.4677000045776367,-1.0363999605178833,-1.7506999969482422,1.2265000343322754,-0.8779000043869019,0.6128000020980835,-0.050200000405311584,0.5827999711036682,-0.7063000202178955,-0.6432999968528748,-0.23725003004074097,0.025100000202655792,0.4124999940395355,0.7721999883651733,-1.0990500450134277) Value<-c(Value,0.9944999814033508,-0.2533000111579895,1.2560999393463135,-0.21819999814033508,-1.1749999523162842,-0.38530001044273376,-0.4399000108242035,-0.7063000202178955,-2.478300094604492,-2.4323999881744385,0.9154000282287598,-0.23725003004074097,-0.38530001044273376,-1.6448999643325806,-0.050200000405311584,1.8499999046325684,-0.38530001044273376,-0.6432999968528748,-4.571800231933594,-6.693999767303467,-1.7506999969482422,1.080299973487854,0.4124999940395355,-1.3408000469207764,-5.93179988861084,-0.35850000381469727,-0.6432999968528748,-0.4124999940395355,-1.0990500450134277,-0.9944999814033508,-0.8064000010490417) Group<-factor(c(rep('D',18),rep('C',1),rep('A',7),rep('B',34),rep('E',3),rep('F',4),rep('G',10),rep('H',2),rep('I',29),rep('J',16),rep('N',1),rep('M',1),rep('Z',2),rep('X',67),rep('O',1))) mydata<-data.frame(Group, Value) summary(aov(Value ~Group,mydata)) TukeyHSD(aov(Value ~Group)) [/code] Das Summary von Anova gibt folgenden Output: [code] Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F) Group 14 147.47 10.5339 1.8815 0.03089 * Residuals 181 1013.38 5.5988 --- Signif. codes: 0 ?***? 0.001 ?**? 0.01 ?*? 0.05 ?.? 0.1 ? ? 1 [/code] Dort sehe ich das der Pr(>F)-Wert unter 0.05 liegt daher existiert ein signifikanter Unterschied. Nun folgt ein Teil der Ausgabe vom TukeyHSD: [code] $Group diff lwr upr p adj B-A -2.42876615 -5.8061007 0.9485684 0.4650621 C-A 0.38050000 -8.3184455 9.0794455 1.0000000 D-A -0.78451112 -4.4090717 2.8400495 0.9999881 E-A -4.49116661 -10.1063118 1.1239785 0.2838741 F-A -1.27940002 -6.3796089 3.8208088 0.9999272 G-A -3.41370001 -7.4237157 0.5963157 0.1940527 H-A -0.69152501 -7.2157341 5.8326841 1.0000000 I-A -1.33448620 -4.7611687 2.0921963 0.9910595 J-A -0.43914063 -4.1265855 3.2483043 1.0000000 M-A -1.23619999 -9.9351455 7.4627455 0.9999999 N-A 0.58289997 -8.1160455 9.2818454 1.0000000 O-A -1.30380000 -10.0027455 7.3951455 0.9999999 X-A -1.40412389 -4.6363376 1.8280899 0.9756749 Z-A -0.86140003 -7.3856091 5.6628091 1.0000000 C-B 2.80926615 -5.4466486 11.0651809 0.9977027 D-B 1.64425503 -0.7276462 4.0161562 0.5299872 E-B -2.06240046 -6.9632505 2.8384496 0.9816337 F-B 1.14936613 -3.1518670 5.4505992 0.9998458 G-B -0.98493386 -3.9121684 1.9423006 0.9979595 H-B 1.73724114 -4.1833822 7.6578644 0.9995457 I-B 1.09427995 -0.9625693 3.1511291 0.8829284 J-B 1.98962552 -0.4773008 4.4565519 0.2709375 M-B 1.19256616 -7.0633486 9.4484809 0.9999999 N-B 3.01166612 -5.2442486 11.2675808 0.9952989 O-B 1.12496615 -7.1309486 9.3808809 1.0000000 X-B 1.02464226 -0.6887408 2.7380253 0.7612648 [/code] Wie sehe ich nun welche Gruppe/n den signifikanten Unterschied aufweisen? Ich meine mich zu erinnern (habe aber leider nix dergleichen gefunden), dass wenn das Intervall die 0 nicht mit einschlie?t ein signifikanter Unterschied besteht. Was bedeuteten w?rde, wenn der pwr und lwr > 0.0 oder pwr und lwr < 0.0 w?ren das dann ein signifikanter Unterschied da w?re. Nur habe ich das in keiner Zeile der TukeyHSD Ausgabe? Ich denke das ist ne Kleinigkeit aber ich hoffe ihr k?nnt mir helfen. Viele Gr??e bladepit
Hallo zusammen, ich mache zuerst mittels eine Anova eine ?berpr?fung ob in den Daten ein signifikanter Unterschied exisitiert. Danach will ich mittels des TukeyHSD rausfinden, zwischen welchen Gruppe der Unterschied vorliegt. Allerdings wei? ich nicht wie ich die Daten interpretieren soll. Hier erstmal mein R Code: [code] Value<-c(-0.9944999814033508,-0.35850000381469727,0.7063000202178955,-1.774399995803833,-1.080299973487854,0.30550000071525574,1.8499999046325684,-0.4124999940395355,0.5827999711036682,1.7506999969482422,-6.693999767303467,-0.8779000043869019,-1.3408000469207764,1.2560999393463135,-0.10040000081062317,1.8499999046325684,-0.3319000005722046,0.4957999885082245,0.8779000043869019,0.7387999892234802,0.8779000043869019,0.9154000282287598,0.8779000043869019,0.7063000202178955,-1.3408000469207764,0.7063000202178955,-0.3319000005722046,-1.6448999643325806,0.4124999940395355,-1.6448999643325806,-0.8779000043869019,0.7487000226974487,0.4399000108242035,1.8499999046325684,-1.6448999643325806,-2.4323999881744385,1.2265000343322754,-0.4957999885082245,-9.999899864196777,-1.7506999969482422,-1.6448999643325806,-9.999899864196777,0.8779000043869019,-5.06279993057251,0.8779000043869019,-2.9677000045776367,-5.06279993057251,-6.693999767303467,-1.0990500450134277,0.9944999814033508,-0.4677000045776367,-0.35850000381469727,-9.999899864196777,0.5827999711036682,0.7487000226974487,0.7387999892234802,-0.2533000111579895,-9.999899864196777,-1.0363999605178833,0.30550000071525574,-1.1749999523162842,-0.8064000010490417,-9.999899864196777,-0.9944999814033508,-2.478300094604492,-0.1509999930858612,0.4957999885082245,-4.571800231933594,-6.324900150299072,-0.38530001044273376,-1.3408000469207764,-5.93179988861084,-6.693999767303467,-2.9677000045776367,0.8779000043869019,-0.050200000405311584,-1.774399995803833,-0.1509999930858612,-0.23725003004074097,-0.6432999968528748,1.2560999393463135,-0.10040000081062317,0.4399000108242035,-0.7063000202178955,0.9154000282287598,-0.21819999814033508,1.2265000343322754,-0.4124999940395355,0.17640000581741333,-1.4758000373840332,-0.9944999814033508,-1.080299973487854,-0.6432999968528748,-9.999899864196777,-2.0536999702453613,-0.21819999814033508,0.7487000226974487,0.025100000202655792,-1.0363999605178833,-0.050200000405311584,-0.7387999892234802,0.4957999885082245,-1.4758000373840332,-0.7063000202178955,0.17640000581741333,-5.06279993057251,-0.6432999968528748,-1.4758000373840332,-0.9944999814033508,-0.2533000111579895,0.17640000581741333,-0.3319000005722046,0.6776500344276428,0.30550000071525574,-0.050200000405311584,0.5827999711036682,1.2560999393463135,-0.4957999885082245,-0.38530001044273376,0.9944999814033508,-2.4323999881744385,1.1263999938964844,-0.9944999814033508,1.7506999969482422,1.080299973487854,-0.7387999892234802,-1.3408000469207764,0.6128000020980835,-2.0536999702453613,0.7063000202178955,-0.8064000010490417,-0.8779000043869019,-0.050200000405311584,-2.9677000045776367,-0.8779000043869019,-2.0536999702453613,-1.3408000469207764,-1.3408000469207764,-0.38530001044273376,0.7063000202178955,-9.999899864196777,-0.4677000045776367,0.7721999883651733,0.025100000202655792,1.1263999938964844,-6.324900150299072,-0.1509999930858612,-0.4399000108242035,-0.9944999814033508,-0.9944999814033508,-0.4677000045776367,-1.0363999605178833,-1.7506999969482422,1.2265000343322754,-0.8779000043869019,0.6128000020980835,-0.050200000405311584,0.5827999711036682,-0.7063000202178955,-0.6432999968528748,-0.23725003004074097,0.025100000202655792,0.4124999940395355,0.7721999883651733,-1.0990500450134277) Value<-c(Value,0.9944999814033508,-0.2533000111579895,1.2560999393463135,-0.21819999814033508,-1.1749999523162842,-0.38530001044273376,-0.4399000108242035,-0.7063000202178955,-2.478300094604492,-2.4323999881744385,0.9154000282287598,-0.23725003004074097,-0.38530001044273376,-1.6448999643325806,-0.050200000405311584,1.8499999046325684,-0.38530001044273376,-0.6432999968528748,-4.571800231933594,-6.693999767303467,-1.7506999969482422,1.080299973487854,0.4124999940395355,-1.3408000469207764,-5.93179988861084,-0.35850000381469727,-0.6432999968528748,-0.4124999940395355,-1.0990500450134277,-0.9944999814033508,-0.8064000010490417) Group<-factor(c(rep('D',18),rep('C',1),rep('A',7),rep('B',34),rep('E',3),rep('F',4),rep('G',10),rep('H',2),rep('I',29),rep('J',16),rep('N',1),rep('M',1),rep('Z',2),rep('X',67),rep('O',1))) mydata<-data.frame(Group, Value) summary(aov(Value ~Group,mydata)) TukeyHSD(aov(Value ~Group)) [/code] Das Summary von Anova gibt folgenden Output: [code] Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F) Group 14 147.47 10.5339 1.8815 0.03089 * Residuals 181 1013.38 5.5988 --- Signif. codes: 0 ?***? 0.001 ?**? 0.01 ?*? 0.05 ?.? 0.1 ? ? 1 [/code] Dort sehe ich das der Pr(>F)-Wert unter 0.05 liegt daher existiert ein signifikanter Unterschied. Nun folgt ein Teil der Ausgabe vom TukeyHSD: [code] $Group diff lwr upr p adj B-A -2.42876615 -5.8061007 0.9485684 0.4650621 C-A 0.38050000 -8.3184455 9.0794455 1.0000000 D-A -0.78451112 -4.4090717 2.8400495 0.9999881 E-A -4.49116661 -10.1063118 1.1239785 0.2838741 F-A -1.27940002 -6.3796089 3.8208088 0.9999272 G-A -3.41370001 -7.4237157 0.5963157 0.1940527 H-A -0.69152501 -7.2157341 5.8326841 1.0000000 I-A -1.33448620 -4.7611687 2.0921963 0.9910595 J-A -0.43914063 -4.1265855 3.2483043 1.0000000 M-A -1.23619999 -9.9351455 7.4627455 0.9999999 N-A 0.58289997 -8.1160455 9.2818454 1.0000000 O-A -1.30380000 -10.0027455 7.3951455 0.9999999 X-A -1.40412389 -4.6363376 1.8280899 0.9756749 Z-A -0.86140003 -7.3856091 5.6628091 1.0000000 C-B 2.80926615 -5.4466486 11.0651809 0.9977027 D-B 1.64425503 -0.7276462 4.0161562 0.5299872 E-B -2.06240046 -6.9632505 2.8384496 0.9816337 F-B 1.14936613 -3.1518670 5.4505992 0.9998458 G-B -0.98493386 -3.9121684 1.9423006 0.9979595 H-B 1.73724114 -4.1833822 7.6578644 0.9995457 I-B 1.09427995 -0.9625693 3.1511291 0.8829284 J-B 1.98962552 -0.4773008 4.4565519 0.2709375 M-B 1.19256616 -7.0633486 9.4484809 0.9999999 N-B 3.01166612 -5.2442486 11.2675808 0.9952989 O-B 1.12496615 -7.1309486 9.3808809 1.0000000 X-B 1.02464226 -0.6887408 2.7380253 0.7612648 [/code] Wie sehe ich nun welche Gruppe/n den signifikanten Unterschied aufweisen? Ich meine mich zu erinnern (habe aber leider nix dergleichen gefunden), dass wenn das Intervall die 0 nicht mit einschlie?t ein signifikanter Unterschied besteht. Was bedeuteten w?rde, wenn der pwr und lwr > 0.0 oder pwr und lwr < 0.0 w?ren das dann ein signifikanter Unterschied da w?re. Nur habe ich das in keiner Zeile der TukeyHSD Ausgabe? Ich denke das ist ne Kleinigkeit aber ich hoffe ihr k?nnt mir helfen. Viele Gr??e bladepit