Hi, I carried out an experiment, using a repeated measures design, in which I broadcast 6 playbacks to 15 nests. I am trying to run a posthoc pairwise comparison on a binomial GLMM with missing data points to determine which playback treatments differ. The response variable (Response) is binary, there is one categorical factor (Treatment) and Nest is included as a random factor. I have run a binomial GLMM using the lme4 package and found the effect of Treatment to be highly significant. I followed this up using the glht function in the multcomp package to look at the pairwise comparisons. However, it is giving me strange results for some of the comparisons, producing p-values of 1 for comparisons between what graphically (plot of mean and std error/boxplots) appear to be the most different treatments. For my other binomial GLMM, where I look at proportion rather than binary data, the glht function yields the expected results without problems. Can anyone help? Is the glht function not appropriate for binary data? Or have I got something wrong? Thank you! Jessica My data and code are below. # My data: Nest<-c(1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,5,5,5,6,6,6,6,6,6,7,7,7,7,7,7,8,8,8,8,8,8,9,9,9,9,9,9,10,10,10,10,10,10,11,11,11,11,11,11,12,12,12,12,12,12,13,13,13,13,13,14,14,14,14,15,15,15,15,15) Treatment<-factor(c("CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CS","SL","SS","CRL","CRS","CS","SL","SS")) Response<-c(0,0,1,1,1,1,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,1,1,1,0,0,1,1,1,0,0,0,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,1,1,1,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,1,1,0,0,1,1,1) binomialGLMM<-data.frame(Nest,Treatment,Response) # Binomial GLMM library(lme4) lmm1<-lmer(Response~Treatment+(1|factor(Nest)),data=binomialGLMM,family=binomial) lmm2<-lmer(Response~1+(1|factor(Nest)),data=binomialGLMM,family=binomial) anova(lmm1,lmm2) Data: binomialGLMM Models: lmm2: Response ~ 1 + (1 | factor(Nest)) lmm1: Response ~ Treatment + (1 | factor(Nest)) Df AIC BIC logLik Chisq Chi Df Pr(>Chisq) lmm2 2 109.405 114.314 -52.703 lmm1 7 57.013 74.193 -21.506 62.392 5 3.889e-12 *** --- Signif. codes: 0 ?***? 0.001 ?**? 0.01 ?*? 0.05 ?.? 0.1 ? ? 1 # Post-hoc pairwise comparison library(multcomp) posthoc<-glht(lmm1, linfct = mcp(Treatment = "Tukey")) summary(posthoc) Simultaneous Tests for General Linear Hypotheses Multiple Comparisons of Means: Tukey Contrasts Fit: glmer(formula = Response ~ Treatment + (1 | factor(Nest)), data binomialGLMM, family = binomial) Linear Hypotheses: Estimate Std. Error z value Pr(>|z|) !!! *CRL - CL == 0 -2.088e+01 4.581e+03 -0.005 1.00000* !!! *CRS - CL == 0 -2.247e+01 4.581e+03 -0.005 1.00000* CS - CL == 0 -1.652e+01 4.581e+03 -0.004 1.00000 SL - CL == 0 9.148e-07 6.276e+03 0.000 1.00000 SS - CL == 0 -1.735e+01 4.581e+03 -0.004 1.00000 CRS - CRL == 0 -1.595e+00 1.348e+00 -1.183 0.79608 CS - CRL == 0 4.359e+00 1.359e+00 3.206 0.01107 * !!! *SL - CRL == 0 2.088e+01 4.290e+03 0.005 1.00000 * SS - CRL == 0 3.531e+00 1.072e+00 3.294 0.00790 ** CS - CRS == 0 5.953e+00 1.700e+00 3.502 0.00382 ** !!! *SL - CRS == 0 2.247e+01 4.290e+03 0.005 1.00000* SS - CRS == 0 5.125e+00 1.480e+00 3.464 0.00421 ** SL - CS == 0 1.652e+01 4.290e+03 0.004 1.00000 SS - CS == 0 -8.279e-01 1.465e+00 -0.565 0.98998 SS - SL == 0 -1.735e+01 4.290e+03 -0.004 1.00000 --- Signif. codes: 0 ?***? 0.001 ?**? 0.01 ?*? 0.05 ?.? 0.1 ? ? 1 (Adjusted p values reported -- single-step method) !!! on the left indicates unexpected p-values. -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Help-with-glht-function-and-binary-data-tp4650222.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.