R help - Jun 2012 - time zones and the chron to POSIXct conversion

Hey R folks,


i found some strange (to me) behaviour with chron to POSIXct conversion. 
The two lines of code result in two different results, on ewith the 
correct time zone, one without:

library(chron)
as.POSIXct(chron('12/12/2000'), tz = 'UTC')
as.POSIXlt(chron('12/12/2000'), tz = 'UTC')

Only the code below would give me a POSIXct object with the correct time 
zone:

as.POSIXct(as.POSIXlt(chron('12/12/2000'), tz = 'UTC'))


Is this a bug or desired behaviour?



Thanks a lot
Jannis

It does seem that as.POSIXct.date doesn't respect the tz= argument the
generic suggests it would. I'd think this is a bug that could be
changed without breaking back-compatibility, but I don't have the
power to make such things happen.

R-Core ruling?

Michael

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Jannis <bt_jannis at yahoo.de>
wrote:
> Hey R folks,
>
>
> i found some strange (to me) behaviour with chron to POSIXct conversion.
The
> two lines of code result in two different results, on ewith the correct
time
> zone, one without:
>
> library(chron)
> as.POSIXct(chron('12/12/2000'), tz = 'UTC')
> as.POSIXlt(chron('12/12/2000'), tz = 'UTC')
>
> Only the code below would give me a POSIXct object with the correct time
> zone:
>
> as.POSIXct(as.POSIXlt(chron('12/12/2000'), tz = 'UTC'))
>
>
> Is this a bug or desired behaviour?
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot
> Jannis
>
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Jannis <bt_jannis at yahoo.de>
wrote:
> Hey R folks,
>
>
> i found some strange (to me) behaviour with chron to POSIXct conversion.
The
> two lines of code result in two different results, on ewith the correct
time
> zone, one without:
>
> library(chron)
> as.POSIXct(chron('12/12/2000'), tz = 'UTC')
> as.POSIXlt(chron('12/12/2000'), tz = 'UTC')
>
> Only the code below would give me a POSIXct object with the correct time
> zone:
>
> as.POSIXct(as.POSIXlt(chron('12/12/2000'), tz = 'UTC'))
>
>
> Is this a bug or desired behaviour?
The time zone aspect of these conversions can be tricky and its
generally safer to convert to a character representation first and
then from there convert to the desired class.  Here we first convert
it to Date class since Date's default character format is similar to
POSIXct's and then convert to character.  Note that up to this point
it does not involve time zones.  Finally we apply as.POSIXct.
> cc <- chron("12/12/2000")
> as.POSIXct(format(as.Date(cc)), tz = "UTC")
[1] "2000-12-12 UTC"

There is a table at the end of the help desk article of R News 4/1
which shows how to do various conversions between various classes.
Although the article is quite old most of it still works.

There is also some question here of whether POSIXct is really the
appropriate class in the first place.  Suggest you read the
aforementioned article for some pointers on that.

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