i can't comment on gtools but to read in a data file (eg csv) these commands will help you and are provided in R without a need for extra packages. read.table read.csv to get help on these use this ?read.table if you type installed.packages() do gtools/gdata come up? please describe what steps you took to install the package of gdata/gtools and how you're trying to import the data. we need more info other than "it's still not working". please tell us what the messages are etc. -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/loading-gdata-tp3769781p3771242.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.