Dear all, I am performing a binomial glmm analysis using the lmer function in the lme4 package (last release, just downloaded). I am using the "Laplace method". However, I am not sure about what I should do to test for the significance of fixed effects in the binomial case: Is it correct to test a full model against a model from which I remove the fixed effect I want to test using the anova(mod1.lmer, mod2.lmer) method and then relying on the model with the lower AIC (or on the Log- likelihood test?)? I thank in advance for your help! best regards, Achaz von Hardenberg ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------- Centro Studi Fauna Alpina - Alpine Wildlife Research Centre Servizio Sanitario e della Ricerca Scientifica Parco Nazionale Gran Paradiso, Degioz, 11, 11010-Valsavarenche (Ao), Italy E-mail: achaz.hardenberg@pngp.it fauna@pngp.it Skype: achazhardenberg Tel.: +39.0165.905783 Fax: +39.0165.905506 Mobile: +39.328.8736291 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------- [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Achaz von Hardenberg <fauna <at> pngp.it> writes:> > Dear all, > I am performing a binomial glmm analysis using the lmer function in > the lme4 package (last release, just downloaded). I am using the > "Laplace method". > > However, I am not sure about what I should do to test for the > significance of fixed effects in the binomial case: Is it correct to > test a full model against a model from which I remove the fixed > effect I want to test using the anova(mod1.lmer, mod2.lmer) method > and then relying on the model with the lower AIC (or on the Log- > likelihood test?)?The short answer is that testing fixed effects in GLMMs is difficult and dangerous. Likelihood ratio tests on fixed effect differences [which is generally what anova() does] in a random-effects model are unreliable (see Pinheiro and Bates 2000). Most of the world does F tests with various corrections on the denominator degrees of freedom, but this is contentious (in particular, Doug Bates, the author of lme4, disagrees). lme4 will eventually let you use an MCMC sampling method to test fixed effects but that may or may not be working in the current version. I would try this question again on the r-sig-mixed mailing list. good luck, Ben Bolker