Sam McClatchie
2007-Apr-27 18:21 UTC
[R] digest readability/ thunderbird email client/ R-help
System:
Linux kernel 2.6.15 Ubuntu dapper
R version 2.4.1
ESS on Emacs 21.4.1
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Colleagues
Has anyone figured out how to make the R-help digest more easily
readable in the Thunderbird mail client? I think the digest used to be
more readable than is currently the case with all of the messages as
attachments.
I know the work around is to get individual messages rather than the
digest, use another mail client, or just look at the archives on the web...
Best fishes
Sam
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Sam McClatchie,
Fisheries oceanographer
Southwest Fisheries Science Center, NOAA,
8604 La Jolla Shores Drive
La Jolla, CA 92037-1508, U.S.A.
email <Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov>
work phone: 858 546 7083
Cellular: 858 752 8495
Research home page <http://www.fishocean.info>
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Martin Maechler
2007-Apr-28 20:00 UTC
[R] digest readability/ thunderbird email client/ R-help
Hi Sam,>>>>> "SamMc" == Sam McClatchie <Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov> >>>>> on Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:21:56 -0700 writes:SamMc> System:Linux kernel 2.6.15 Ubuntu dapper ....... SamMc> Has anyone figured out how to make the R-help digest SamMc> more easily readable in the Thunderbird mail client? SamMc> I think the digest used to be more readable than is SamMc> currently the case with all of the messages as SamMc> attachments. SamMc> I know the work around is to get individual messages SamMc> rather than the digest, use another mail client, or SamMc> just look at the archives on the web... {and there are at least two alternatives to the standard archives, notably Gmane. BTW: Just found an URL that should list all R lists carried by them : http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=.r. It had been pointed out more than once that Thunderbird unfortunately is not adhering to the standard(s) of such digests-- too bad it still is not. One alternative is to get the digest as "plain" digest ((which BTW another standard-complying digest format, that e.g. emacs Rmail or VM can easily deal with)) which will most probably just appear as one long e-mail in Thunderbird, with "table of contents" of all the subject lines, but nothing "clickable" Regards, Martin Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich
Michael Dewey
2007-Apr-29 12:20 UTC
[R] digest readability/ thunderbird email client/ R-help
At 21:00 28/04/2007, Martin Maechler wrote:>Hi Sam,I posted a request for information on how various mailers handled this so I could summarise the results and put it on a helpful webpage. Nobody was willing to sing the praises of his/her favourite mailer so the only one I can suggest is the one I use myself, Eudora, although that is now no longer under development. My offer is still open if anyone has anything to contribute.> >>>>> "SamMc" == Sam McClatchie <Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov> > >>>>> on Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:21:56 -0700 writes: > > SamMc> System:Linux kernel 2.6.15 Ubuntu dapper > ....... > > > SamMc> Has anyone figured out how to make the R-help digest > SamMc> more easily readable in the Thunderbird mail client? > SamMc> I think the digest used to be more readable than is > SamMc> currently the case with all of the messages as > SamMc> attachments. > > SamMc> I know the work around is to get individual messages > SamMc> rather than the digest, use another mail client, or > SamMc> just look at the archives on the web... > > {and there are at least two alternatives to the standard > archives, notably Gmane. > BTW: Just found an URL that should list all R lists carried > by them : http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=.r. > > >It had been pointed out more than once that Thunderbird >unfortunately is not adhering to the standard(s) of such >digests-- too bad it still is not. > >One alternative is to get the digest as "plain" digest >((which BTW another standard-complying digest format, that > e.g. emacs Rmail or VM can easily deal with)) >which will most probably just appear as one long e-mail in >Thunderbird, with "table of contents" of all the subject lines, >but nothing "clickable" > >Regards, >Martin > >Martin Maechler, ETH ZurichMichael Dewey med at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk http://www.aghmed.fsnet.co.uk/home.html
Thanks Martin and Michael
The plain digest option works well with Thunderbird.
Best fishes
Sam
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Sam McClatchie,
Fisheries oceanographer
Southwest Fisheries Science Center, NOAA,
8604 La Jolla Shores Drive
La Jolla, CA 92037-1508, U.S.A.
email <Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov>
Cellular: 858 752 8495
Research home page <http://www.fishocean.info>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Dewey <med at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk>
Date: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:20 am
Subject: Re: [R] digest readability/ thunderbird email client/ R-help
> At 21:00 28/04/2007, Martin Maechler wrote:
> >Hi Sam,
>
> I posted a request for information on how various mailers handled
> this so I could summarise the results and put it on a helpful
> webpage. Nobody was willing to sing the praises of his/her
> favourite
> mailer so the only one I can suggest is the one I use myself,
> Eudora,
> although that is now no longer under development.
>
> My offer is still open if anyone has anything to contribute.
>
>
> > >>>>> "SamMc" == Sam McClatchie
<Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov>
> > >>>>> on Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:21:56 -0700 writes:
> >
> > SamMc> System:Linux kernel 2.6.15 Ubuntu dapper
> > .......
> >
> >
> > SamMc> Has anyone figured out how to make the R-help digest
> > SamMc> more easily readable in the Thunderbird mail client?
> > SamMc> I think the digest used to be more readable than is
> > SamMc> currently the case with all of the messages as
> > SamMc> attachments.
> >
> > SamMc> I know the work around is to get individual messages
> > SamMc> rather than the digest, use another mail client, or
> > SamMc> just look at the archives on the web...
> >
> > {and there are at least two alternatives to the standard
> > archives, notably Gmane.
> > BTW: Just found an URL that should list all R lists carried
> > by them : http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=.r.
> >
> >
> >It had been pointed out more than once that Thunderbird
> >unfortunately is not adhering to the standard(s) of such
> >digests-- too bad it still is not.
> >
> >One alternative is to get the digest as "plain" digest
> >((which BTW another standard-complying digest format, that
> > e.g. emacs Rmail or VM can easily deal with))
> >which will most probably just appear as one long e-mail in
> >Thunderbird, with "table of contents" of all the subject
lines,
> >but nothing "clickable"
> >
> >Regards,
> >Martin
> >
> >Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich
>
> Michael Dewey
> med at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk
> http://www.aghmed.fsnet.co.uk/home.html
>
>