Sam McClatchie
2007-Apr-27 18:21 UTC
[R] digest readability/ thunderbird email client/ R-help
System: Linux kernel 2.6.15 Ubuntu dapper R version 2.4.1 ESS on Emacs 21.4.1 ------------------------- Colleagues Has anyone figured out how to make the R-help digest more easily readable in the Thunderbird mail client? I think the digest used to be more readable than is currently the case with all of the messages as attachments. I know the work around is to get individual messages rather than the digest, use another mail client, or just look at the archives on the web... Best fishes Sam -- Sam McClatchie, Fisheries oceanographer Southwest Fisheries Science Center, NOAA, 8604 La Jolla Shores Drive La Jolla, CA 92037-1508, U.S.A. email <Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov> work phone: 858 546 7083 Cellular: 858 752 8495 Research home page <http://www.fishocean.info> /\ ...>><xX(?> //// \\\\ <?)Xx><< ///// \\\\\\ ><(((?> >><(((?> ...>><xX(?>O<?)Xx><<
Martin Maechler
2007-Apr-28 20:00 UTC
[R] digest readability/ thunderbird email client/ R-help
Hi Sam,>>>>> "SamMc" == Sam McClatchie <Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov> >>>>> on Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:21:56 -0700 writes:SamMc> System:Linux kernel 2.6.15 Ubuntu dapper ....... SamMc> Has anyone figured out how to make the R-help digest SamMc> more easily readable in the Thunderbird mail client? SamMc> I think the digest used to be more readable than is SamMc> currently the case with all of the messages as SamMc> attachments. SamMc> I know the work around is to get individual messages SamMc> rather than the digest, use another mail client, or SamMc> just look at the archives on the web... {and there are at least two alternatives to the standard archives, notably Gmane. BTW: Just found an URL that should list all R lists carried by them : http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=.r. It had been pointed out more than once that Thunderbird unfortunately is not adhering to the standard(s) of such digests-- too bad it still is not. One alternative is to get the digest as "plain" digest ((which BTW another standard-complying digest format, that e.g. emacs Rmail or VM can easily deal with)) which will most probably just appear as one long e-mail in Thunderbird, with "table of contents" of all the subject lines, but nothing "clickable" Regards, Martin Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich
Michael Dewey
2007-Apr-29 12:20 UTC
[R] digest readability/ thunderbird email client/ R-help
At 21:00 28/04/2007, Martin Maechler wrote:>Hi Sam,I posted a request for information on how various mailers handled this so I could summarise the results and put it on a helpful webpage. Nobody was willing to sing the praises of his/her favourite mailer so the only one I can suggest is the one I use myself, Eudora, although that is now no longer under development. My offer is still open if anyone has anything to contribute.> >>>>> "SamMc" == Sam McClatchie <Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov> > >>>>> on Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:21:56 -0700 writes: > > SamMc> System:Linux kernel 2.6.15 Ubuntu dapper > ....... > > > SamMc> Has anyone figured out how to make the R-help digest > SamMc> more easily readable in the Thunderbird mail client? > SamMc> I think the digest used to be more readable than is > SamMc> currently the case with all of the messages as > SamMc> attachments. > > SamMc> I know the work around is to get individual messages > SamMc> rather than the digest, use another mail client, or > SamMc> just look at the archives on the web... > > {and there are at least two alternatives to the standard > archives, notably Gmane. > BTW: Just found an URL that should list all R lists carried > by them : http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=.r. > > >It had been pointed out more than once that Thunderbird >unfortunately is not adhering to the standard(s) of such >digests-- too bad it still is not. > >One alternative is to get the digest as "plain" digest >((which BTW another standard-complying digest format, that > e.g. emacs Rmail or VM can easily deal with)) >which will most probably just appear as one long e-mail in >Thunderbird, with "table of contents" of all the subject lines, >but nothing "clickable" > >Regards, >Martin > >Martin Maechler, ETH ZurichMichael Dewey med at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk http://www.aghmed.fsnet.co.uk/home.html
Thanks Martin and Michael The plain digest option works well with Thunderbird. Best fishes Sam ---- Sam McClatchie, Fisheries oceanographer Southwest Fisheries Science Center, NOAA, 8604 La Jolla Shores Drive La Jolla, CA 92037-1508, U.S.A. email <Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov> Cellular: 858 752 8495 Research home page <http://www.fishocean.info> /\ ...>><xX(?> //// \\\\ <?)Xx><< ///// \\\\\\ ><(((?> >><(((?> ...>><xX(?>O<?)Xx><< ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Dewey <med at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:20 am Subject: Re: [R] digest readability/ thunderbird email client/ R-help> At 21:00 28/04/2007, Martin Maechler wrote: > >Hi Sam, > > I posted a request for information on how various mailers handled > this so I could summarise the results and put it on a helpful > webpage. Nobody was willing to sing the praises of his/her > favourite > mailer so the only one I can suggest is the one I use myself, > Eudora, > although that is now no longer under development. > > My offer is still open if anyone has anything to contribute. > > > > >>>>> "SamMc" == Sam McClatchie <Sam.McClatchie at noaa.gov> > > >>>>> on Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:21:56 -0700 writes: > > > > SamMc> System:Linux kernel 2.6.15 Ubuntu dapper > > ....... > > > > > > SamMc> Has anyone figured out how to make the R-help digest > > SamMc> more easily readable in the Thunderbird mail client? > > SamMc> I think the digest used to be more readable than is > > SamMc> currently the case with all of the messages as > > SamMc> attachments. > > > > SamMc> I know the work around is to get individual messages > > SamMc> rather than the digest, use another mail client, or > > SamMc> just look at the archives on the web... > > > > {and there are at least two alternatives to the standard > > archives, notably Gmane. > > BTW: Just found an URL that should list all R lists carried > > by them : http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=.r. > > > > > >It had been pointed out more than once that Thunderbird > >unfortunately is not adhering to the standard(s) of such > >digests-- too bad it still is not. > > > >One alternative is to get the digest as "plain" digest > >((which BTW another standard-complying digest format, that > > e.g. emacs Rmail or VM can easily deal with)) > >which will most probably just appear as one long e-mail in > >Thunderbird, with "table of contents" of all the subject lines, > >but nothing "clickable" > > > >Regards, > >Martin > > > >Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich > > Michael Dewey > med at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk > http://www.aghmed.fsnet.co.uk/home.html > >