-----Original Message----- From: Correa S.T. Sent: 04 December 2006 18:47 To: Trujillo L. Subject: Initial values used by function lme Hi R users, I am trying to obtain the "good" initial values used by function lme when fitting a two-level random effect model, since it seems there is an internal function in lme that calculates those values apropriately. Does anybody know how to get that information? Many thanks, Solange Correa. PhD student Southampton University.