R help - Apr 2005 - how to draw a 45 degree line on qqnorm() plot?

# I can not draw a 45 degree line on a qqnorm() plot,

jj <- sample(c(1:100), 10)
qqnorm(jj)

abline() don't work.
Thank you.

You didn't try very hard.  

Try this, look at it and think about it:

jj <- scale(sample(1:100, 10))  
qqnorm(jj)
abline(0, 1)  

Rather than abline, however, most people, however, would use

qqline(jj)

in which case you don't need the scaling.

V.

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Subject: [R] how to draw a 45 degree line on qqnorm() plot?


# I can not draw a 45 degree line on a qqnorm() plot,

jj <- sample(c(1:100), 10)
qqnorm(jj)

abline() don't work.
Thank you.

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Remember this is just a diagnostic procedure and all you are really
looking for is whether the normal scores plot is pretty straight.  The
reason for anchoring the guiding line at the quartiles is really the
same reason that boxplots use quartiles for the central chunk.  You
don't want the guiding line to be influenced by the tails too much.
It's a robustness thing.

In order for the 45 degree line to be useful, you have to *standardize*
your residuals so that they look like *standard* normal residuals (just
as the normal scores are standardized).  If you do that then the 45
degree line is likely to be useful, but no more so in practice than the
usual qqline, which applies irrespective of standardization.

Bill Venables.

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Mu [mailto:muster at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 3 April 2005 6:10 PM
To: Venables, Bill (CMIS, Cleveland)
Cc: r-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [R] how to draw a 45 degree line on qqnorm() plot?


Thank you. I didn't know scale(). 

Qqline passes through 1st and 3rd quantiles, It doesn't seem very
useful to me. I thought a diagnol line will demonstrate the deviation
from a standard normal. Correct me if I was wrong. Thanks.



On Apr 3, 2005 2:40 AM, Bill.Venables at csiro.au <Bill.Venables at
csiro.au>
wrote:
> You didn't try very hard.
> 
> Try this, look at it and think about it:
> 
> jj <- scale(sample(1:100, 10))
> qqnorm(jj)
> abline(0, 1)
> 
> Rather than abline, however, most people, however, would use
> 
> qqline(jj)
> 
> in which case you don't need the scaling.
> 
> V.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch
> [mailto:r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of Terry Mu
> Sent: Sunday, 3 April 2005 4:00 PM
> To: R-Help
> Subject: [R] how to draw a 45 degree line on qqnorm() plot?
> 
> # I can not draw a 45 degree line on a qqnorm() plot,
> 
> jj <- sample(c(1:100), 10)
> qqnorm(jj)
> 
> abline() don't work.
> Thank you.
> 
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