Hello!
A problem with special characters seemed to me to be a bug. I sent a mail
to R-windows at r-project.org concerning the problem (see below).
How can I find out, if this is considered as a bug or an error of myself?
Which part of FAQs or documentation did I miss to find the answer?
thanks in advance
Heinz T??chler
-------------------- copy of abovementioned mail ----------
to: R-windows at r-project.org
subject: problem with special characters (??,??,??)
Dear Developers!
Using special characters I found a strange behaviour in R 2.0.1 and equally
in
R : Copyright 2004, The R Foundation for Statistical Computing
Version 2.0.1 (2004-11-15), ISBN 3-900051-07-0
Operating System: Windows 98SE
example:
factor1<-as.factor(c("weiblich","m??nnlich","??sterreichisch","fr??hreif","Gru??
"))
factor1> factor1
[1] weiblich m\344nnlich \366sterreichisch fr\374hreif
[5] Gru\337
Levels: fr??hreif Gru?? m??nnlich ??sterreichisch weiblich
with best wishes
Heinz T??chler
You have already been sent an answer. It is a bug in your copy of Windows, and it will be worked around in the current version of R-patched. From the CHANGES file: R 2.0.1 patched ============== We work around reported bugs in Windows XP as to which characters are printable by attempting to print all non-control characters when using print(). Note: no one else has reported a problem on 98SE, despite this having been the behaviour of R for three months, and it seemed only XP SP2 was affected. Indeed, no one reported the problem for 2.0.0 at all, including all the alpha and beta test versions (except for Chinese where the characters are invalid and so the behaviour was correct), and so the workaround did not make 2.0.1. BTW, your expectation that an email you sent at the weekend will be answered by Tuesday is completely unreasonable. R is a volunteer project, and the developers do have other commitments (and occasionally make attempts to have a life). [You could have read the archives of the R mailing lists to find that this was a known issue that had already been addressed.] On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Heinz Tuechler wrote:> Hello! > > A problem with special characters seemed to me to be a bug. I sent a mail > to R-windows at r-project.org concerning the problem (see below). > How can I find out, if this is considered as a bug or an error of myself? > Which part of FAQs or documentation did I miss to find the answer? > > thanks in advance > > Heinz T?chler > > -------------------- copy of abovementioned mail ---------- > to: R-windows at r-project.org > subject: problem with special characters (?,?,?) > Dear Developers! > > Using special characters I found a strange behaviour in R 2.0.1 and equally > in > R : Copyright 2004, The R Foundation for Statistical Computing > Version 2.0.1 (2004-11-15), ISBN 3-900051-07-0 > > Operating System: Windows 98SE > > example: > factor1<-as.factor(c("weiblich","m?nnlich","?sterreichisch","fr?hreif","Gru? > ")) > factor1 >> factor1 > [1] weiblich m\344nnlich \366sterreichisch fr\374hreif > > [5] Gru\337 > Levels: fr?hreif Gru? m?nnlich ?sterreichisch weiblich > > with best wishes > > Heinz T?chler > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > >-- Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
> -----Original Message----- > From: r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch > [mailto:r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of Heinz Tuechler > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:25 PM > To: r-help at stat.math.ethz.ch > Subject: [R] How to know if a bug was recognised > > > Hello! > > A problem with special characters seemed to me to be a bug. I > sent a mail to R-windows at r-project.org concerning the problem > (see below). How can I find out, if this is considered as a > bug or an error of myself? Which part of FAQs or > documentation did I miss to find the answer?This will not answer your question on what is a bug or not, but if you don't know, the "R team" has kindly made a fix for this problem. What I remember from an earlier thread, this was not really due to R, but to Windows. For the latest R v2.0.1 patch it now seems to work as before/expected: R : Copyright 2004, The R Foundation for Statistical Computing Version 2.0.1 Patched (2004-11-27), ISBN 3-900051-07-0> "??"[1] "??"> "??"[1] "??"> "??"[1] "??" Cheers Henrik Bengtsson> thanks in advance > > Heinz T??chler > > -------------------- copy of abovementioned mail ---------- > to: R-windows at r-project.org > subject: problem with special characters (??,??,??) > Dear Developers! > > Using special characters I found a strange behaviour in R > 2.0.1 and equally in > R : Copyright 2004, The R Foundation for Statistical > Computing Version 2.0.1 (2004-11-15), ISBN 3-900051-07-0 > > Operating System: Windows 98SE > > example: > factor1<-as.factor(c("weiblich","m??nnlich","??sterreichisch","f > r??hreif","Gru?? > ")) > factor1 > > factor1 > [1] weiblich m\344nnlich \366sterreichisch > fr\374hreif > > [5] Gru\337 > Levels: fr??hreif Gru?? m??nnlich ??sterreichisch weiblich > > with best wishes > > Heinz T??chler > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide! > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > >
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:24:43 +0100, Heinz Tuechler <tuechler at gmx.at> wrote :>Hello! > >A problem with special characters seemed to me to be a bug. I sent a mail >to R-windows at r-project.org concerning the problem (see below). >How can I find out, if this is considered as a bug or an error of myself? >Which part of FAQs or documentation did I miss to find the answer?If you send a private email, please use a return address that works. I got messages that tuechler at gmx.at has been disabled when I tried to respond there. Duncan Murdoch
Thank you for your answer. BTW for a beginner like me it seems very difficult to ask a question without being criticised. Maybe that for a beginner it is not that easy to find an issue which, as you say, "Indeed, no one reported the problem for 2.0.0 at all, including all the alpha and beta test versions (except for Chinese where the characters are invalid and so the behaviour was correct), and so the workaround did not make 2.0.1." in the archives of the R mailing lists. And believe me I was searching for several hours, obvoiusly not with the right keywords. I did not express any expectation about an answer, I hoped to get an answer about what kind of reaction I should expect. Studying the "R Bug Tracking System" was not successful. I am aware of the character of the R project, I highly appreciate the work of this group and of course I do not want to inhibit your occasional attempts to have a life. Heinz T??chler At 12:55 30.11.2004 +0000, you wrote:>You have already been sent an answer. It is a bug in your copy of >Windows, and it will be worked around in the current version of R-patched. >From the CHANGES file: > > R 2.0.1 patched > ==============> > We work around reported bugs in Windows XP as to which characters are > printable by attempting to print all non-control characters when using > print(). > >Note: no one else has reported a problem on 98SE, despite this having been >the behaviour of R for three months, and it seemed only XP SP2 was >affected. Indeed, no one reported the problem for 2.0.0 at all, including >all the alpha and beta test versions (except for Chinese where the >characters are invalid and so the behaviour was correct), and so the >workaround did not make 2.0.1. > >BTW, your expectation that an email you sent at the weekend will be >answered by Tuesday is completely unreasonable. R is a volunteer project, >and the developers do have other commitments (and occasionally make >attempts to have a life). > >[You could have read the archives of the R mailing lists to find that this >was a known issue that had already been addressed.] > >On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Heinz Tuechler wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> A problem with special characters seemed to me to be a bug. I sent a mail >> to R-windows at r-project.org concerning the problem (see below). >> How can I find out, if this is considered as a bug or an error of myself? >> Which part of FAQs or documentation did I miss to find the answer? >> >> thanks in advance >> >> Heinz T??chler >> >> -------------------- copy of abovementioned mail ---------- >> to: R-windows at r-project.org >> subject: problem with special characters (??,??,??) >> Dear Developers! >> >> Using special characters I found a strange behaviour in R 2.0.1 and equally >> in >> R : Copyright 2004, The R Foundation for Statistical Computing >> Version 2.0.1 (2004-11-15), ISBN 3-900051-07-0 >> >> Operating System: Windows 98SE >> >> example: >>factor1<-as.factor(c("weiblich","m??nnlich","??sterreichisch","fr??hreif","Gru??>> ")) >> factor1 >>> factor1 >> [1] weiblich m\344nnlich \366sterreichisch fr\374hreif >> >> [5] Gru\337 >> Levels: fr??hreif Gru?? m??nnlich ??sterreichisch weiblich >> >> with best wishes >> >> Heinz T??chler >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide!http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html>> >> > >-- >Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk >Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ >University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) >1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) >Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
Dear Henrik Bengtsson! Thank you for your kind answer. I am sorry that at the time of writing my inital message the last version of R was 2004-11-15. As soon as possible I will try the new version. with many thanks Heinz T??chler At 14:01 30.11.2004 +0100, you wrote:>> -----Original Message----- >> From: r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch >> [mailto:r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of Heinz Tuechler >> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:25 PM >> To: r-help at stat.math.ethz.ch >> Subject: [R] How to know if a bug was recognised >> >> >> Hello! >> >> A problem with special characters seemed to me to be a bug. I >> sent a mail to R-windows at r-project.org concerning the problem >> (see below). How can I find out, if this is considered as a >> bug or an error of myself? Which part of FAQs or >> documentation did I miss to find the answer? > >This will not answer your question on what is a bug or not, but if you don't >know, the "R team" has kindly made a fix for this problem. What I remember >from an earlier thread, this was not really due to R, but to Windows. For >the latest R v2.0.1 patch it now seems to work as before/expected: > >R : Copyright 2004, The R Foundation for Statistical Computing >Version 2.0.1 Patched (2004-11-27), ISBN 3-900051-07-0 > >> "??" >[1] "??" >> "??" >[1] "??" >> "??" >[1] "??" > >Cheers > >Henrik Bengtsson > > >> thanks in advance >> >> Heinz T??chler >> >> -------------------- copy of abovementioned mail ---------- >> to: R-windows at r-project.org >> subject: problem with special characters (??,??,??) >> Dear Developers! >> >> Using special characters I found a strange behaviour in R >> 2.0.1 and equally in >> R : Copyright 2004, The R Foundation for Statistical >> Computing Version 2.0.1 (2004-11-15), ISBN 3-900051-07-0 >> >> Operating System: Windows 98SE >> >> example: >> factor1<-as.factor(c("weiblich","m??nnlich","??sterreichisch","f >> r??hreif","Gru?? >> ")) >> factor1 >> > factor1 >> [1] weiblich m\344nnlich \366sterreichisch >> fr\374hreif >> >> [5] Gru\337 >> Levels: fr??hreif Gru?? m??nnlich ??sterreichisch weiblich >> >> with best wishes >> >> Heinz T??chler >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide! >> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> >> > >
At 10:43 30.11.2004 -0500, you wrote: ...>If you send a private email, please use a return address that works. >I got messages that tuechler at gmx.at has been disabled when I tried to >respond there. > >Duncan Murdoch >... As I tried to tell you, there seems to be a problem on both sides of our addresses. I erroneously sent my response to your posting to you (murdoch at stats.uwo.ca) and not to the list. The answer was what you see below. X-Flags: 0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to tuechler at gmx.at Date: 30 Nov 2004 15:55:37 -0000 From: MAILER-DAEMON at mail.gmx.net To: tuechler at gmx.at Subject: failure notice X-GMX-Antivirus: -1 (not scanned, may not use virus scanner) X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam) Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.gmx.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <murdoch at stats.uwo.ca>: Connected_to_129.100.45.201_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:_550_5 .7.1_<tuechler at gmx.at>..._Access_denied/ --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <tuechler at gmx.at> Received: (qmail 16050 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Nov 2004 15:55:31 -0000 Received: from N015P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO ipc) (213.33.1.211) by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 30 Nov 2004 16:55:31 +0100 X-Authenticated: #933343 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041130165453.007a3100 at pop.gmx.net> X-Sender: 933343 at pop.gmx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:54:53 +0100 To: Duncan Murdoch <murdoch at stats.uwo.ca> From: Heinz Tuechler <tuechler at gmx.at> Subject: Re: [R] Attn Heinz Tuechler: Re: problem with sp ecial characters ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E4?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?,=F6,=FC)?In-Reply-To: <l64pq01252g98aki53brfihdfipa96drg5 at 4ax.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20041127233123.00794d20 at pop.gmx.net> <3.0.6.32.20041127233123.00794d20 at pop.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for the information. I did already download the 27-11-2004 version and I have the intention to try it within a day and report on the result, if this is of interest. My address (tuechler at gmx.at) should work but I will check that too. ...