R help - Nov 2004 - Danish characters i R2.0.1 vs R1.9.1 under winXP

Hi all.

After upgrading to R2.0.1 i get
> "??"
[1] "??"
> "??"
[1] "\370" 
> "??"
[1] "??"

Whereas under R1.9.1 i get
> "??"
[1] "??"
> "??"
[1] "??"
> "??"
[1] "??"

Any hints apreciated.

Steen

Steen Ladelund, statistician
+4543233275 stelad01.FUNNYAglostruphospDOTkbhamt.dk
Research Center for Prevention and Health
Glostrup University Hospital, Denmark
www.fcfs.kbhamt.dk

The problem is in your OS, which thinks the character \370 is not 
printable in your locale.

Apparently this is a WinXP problem, for it also thinks \366 is not 
printable in German (and other versions of Windows thinks it is).
(Uwe Ligges pointed that out a few hours ago.)

R 1.9.1 did not check, and so made a mess of trying to print non-printable 
characters, in particular nuls and control characters.

There is no simple workaround, as you do want octal representation for 
non-printable characters (e.g. embedded nuls).  What I have proposed is 
that we override Windows' view for upper (>= 0x80) characters.

It does not seem to be common: the only reports before today were for
Chinese, which is not expected to work.

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Ladelund, Steen wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> After upgrading to R2.0.1 i get
>
>> "æ"
> [1] "æ"
>> "ø"
> [1] "\370"
>> "å"
> [1] "å"
>
> Whereas under R1.9.1 i get
>
>> "æ"
> [1] "æ"
>> "ø"
> [1] "ø"
>> "å"
> [1] "å"
>
> Any hints apreciated.
>
> Steen
>
> Steen Ladelund, statistician
> +4543233275 stelad01.FUNNYAglostruphospDOTkbhamt.dk
> Research Center for Prevention and Health
> Glostrup University Hospital, Denmark
> www.fcfs.kbhamt.dk
>
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Brian D. Ripley,                  ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
Professor of Applied Statistics,  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
University of Oxford,             Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
1 South Parks Road,                     +44 1865 272866 (PA)
Oxford OX1 3TG, UK                Fax:  +44 1865 272595

Sorry for not reporting earlier, but the same problem exists with Swedish
verisons
of Windows XP together with R 2.0.0 patched (but not with R 1.9.1) and the last
characters in our alphabet.
> "??"
[1] "\344" 
> "??"
[1] "\366" 
> "??"
[1] "??"
> "??"
[1] "\326" 
> "??"
[1] "\304" 
> "?
"
[1] "\305" 


Hans Gardfjell
Ecology and Environmental science
Ume?? University, Sweden

>The problem is in your OS, which thinks the character \370 is not 
>printable in your locale.
>Apparently this is a WinXP problem, for it also thinks \366 is not 
>printable in German (and other versions of Windows thinks it is).
>(Uwe Ligges pointed that out a few hours ago.)
>R 1.9.1 did not check, and so made a mess of trying to print non-printable 
>characters, in particular nuls and control characters.
>There is no simple workaround, as you do want octal representation for 
>non-printable characters (e.g. embedded nuls).  What I have proposed is 
>that we override Windows' view for upper (>= 0x80) characters.
>It does not seem to be common: the only reports before today were for
>Chinese, which is not expected to work.
>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Ladelund, Steen wrote:
>>/ Hi all.
/>>/
/>>/ After upgrading to R2.0.1 i get
/>>/
/>>>/ "??"
/>>/ [1] "??"
/>>>/ "??"
/>>/ [1] "\370"
/>>>/ "??"
/>>/ [1] "??"
/>>/
/>>/ Whereas under R1.9.1 i get
/>>/
/>>>/ "??"
/>>/ [1] "??"
/>>>/ "??"
/>>/ [1] "??"
/>>>/ "??"
/>>/ [1] "??"
/>>/
/>>/ Any hints apreciated.
/>>/
/>>/ Steen
/>>/
/>>/ Steen Ladelund, statistician
/>>/ +4543233275 stelad01.FUNNYAglostruphospDOTkbhamt.dk
/>>/ Research Center for Prevention and Health
/>>/ Glostrup University Hospital, Denmark
/>>/ www.fcfs.kbhamt.dk
/>>/
/>>/ ______________________________________________
/>>/ R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
<https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help> mailing list
/>>/ https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
/>>/ PLEASE do read the posting guide!
http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
/>>/
/>/
/
>-- 
>Brian D. Ripley,                  ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
<https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help>
>Professor of Applied Statistics,  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
<http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/%7Eripley/>
>University of Oxford,             Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
>1 South Parks Road,                     +44 1865 272866 (PA)
>Oxford OX1 3TG, UK                Fax:  +44 1865 272595