Hi, there I am not a member on your mailing list, so could you please cc: a response to me? I am currently attempting to perform an ANOVA with both nested and normal factors. My problem is that R is treating my nested factors the exact same way as it would interaction terms. My output for the nested model is as follows: > nested <- anova(lm(ltotinv ~ habitat + fish/lake + habitat:fish + habitat:(la\ ke %in% fish))) > nested Analysis of Variance Table Response: ltotinv Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F) habitat 1 17.0829 17.0829 50.0917 3.083e-09 *** fish 1 0.9131 0.9131 2.6774 0.107600 habitat:fish 1 13.0100 13.0100 38.1488 8.877e-08 *** fish:lake 1 1.0256 1.0256 3.0072 0.088599 . habitat:fish:lake 1 2.7641 2.7641 8.1051 0.006229 ** Residuals 54 18.4158 0.3410 ---lysis of Variance Table Signif. codes: 0 `***' 0.001 `**' 0.01 `*' 0.05 `.' 0.1 ` ' 1 With just interactions, not nested: > test <- anova(lm(ltotinv ~ habitat + fish + lake:fish + habitat:fish + fish:h\ abitat:lake)) > test Analysis of Variance Table Response: ltotinv Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F) habitat 1 17.0829 17.0829 50.0917 3.083e-09 *** fish 1 0.9131 0.9131 2.6774 0.107600 habitat:fish 1 13.0100 13.0100 38.1488 8.877e-08 *** fish:lake 1 1.0256 1.0256 3.0072 0.088599 . habitat:fish:lake 1 2.7641 2.7641 8.1051 0.006229 ** Residuals 54 18.4158 0.3410 --- Signif. codes: 0 `***' 0.001 `**' 0.01 `*' 0.05 `.' 0.1 ` ' 1 > We get the same answer. The reason I figured this out is because I did this analysis first in SAS, and then tried to reproduce it in R. It must be something to do with my syntax, I imagine, but I can't see what it is. Any help anyone has would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Mike Rennie M.Sc. Candidate, University of Toronto at Mississauga -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._