R help - Oct 2001 - Cross-compilers versus windows compilers (was optimal win dows R machine)

Good morning,

May I ask a naive follow up to this?   Having now been granted limited
rights to use R-windows on a work PC, I wish to set up my home PC to support
compiling packages and so on.   I currently have a working Linux set-up at
home, is there any general advice as to whether it would be better to add in
the cross-compilers there or is it better to persuade my home PC to dual
boot windows and set up the full recommended windows compilation collection.

Thanks for any pointers

Paul
>From: Liaw, Andy (andy_liaw at merck.com)
>Date: Wed Oct 17 2001 - 16:41:24 CEST 
>I agree with Mark about Linux, if for no other reasons than the fact that
it 
>actually comes with the compilers needed to build R and do further code 
>development. Compared with doing it on Linux, compiling R from source on 
>Windows is not exactly a pleasure, even with the tremendous work to make it
>even possible by Ripley and Mararrato. 
>Cheers, 
>Andy 

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Paul Hewson wrote:
> May I ask a naive follow up to this?   Having now been granted limited
> rights to use R-windows on a work PC, I wish to set up my home PC to
support
> compiling packages and so on.   I currently have a working Linux set-up at
> home, is there any general advice as to whether it would be better to add
in
> the cross-compilers there or is it better to persuade my home PC to dual
> boot windows and set up the full recommended windows compilation
collection.
If you don't need Compiled HTML help (and my guess is that you don't)
then
almost all packages can be cross-compiled.  (Of course, almost all the
public ones are already available in compiled form: many thanks to
Phillipe Grosjean for updates while I am travelling etc.)

Setting up a cross-compiler can be at least as frustrating as setting up a
native one.  I am offering one on the Rtools portal that works for me, but
is a little out-of-date.  There are others out there, but they mostly lack
Fortran.

I would try the cross-compiling route for now, but would warn that as we
move to using R itself for parts of the build procedure, cross-compiling
may become less viable.  Indeed, I managed to break it in R-devel for
a week or so recently.


PS on the original topic about VMware: my comments were principally about
speed running R for Windows under VMware.  It is probable that R is a
particularly bad fit, as its memory manager is already trying to make
Windows memomry management work like the Unix equivalent, and memory
management is crucial to R's performance.
>
> Thanks for any pointers
>
> Paul
>
> >From: Liaw, Andy (andy_liaw at merck.com)
> >Date: Wed Oct 17 2001 - 16:41:24 CEST
> >I agree with Mark about Linux, if for no other reasons than the fact
that
> it
> >actually comes with the compilers needed to build R and do further code
> >development. Compared with doing it on Linux, compiling R from source
on
> >Windows is not exactly a pleasure, even with the tremendous work to
make it
>
> >even possible by Ripley and Mararrato.
> >Cheers,
> >Andy
>
>
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> Paul Hewson     tel. (01392) 382773
> Data Analyst and Research Officer
>
> Road Safety Team, Environment Directorate,
> Devon County Council,
> 1st Floor, Lucombe House,
> County Hall
> Topsham Road
> Exeter EX2 4QW
>
> tel (01392) 382773   fax (01392) 382135
> email phewson at devon.gov.uk
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I found it to be a minor hassle to set up the cross-compilers but not
too bad at all.  Following Brian Ripley's directions and hacking around
with scripts I managed to get things going.  If you run into trouble I
could probably help you.

  Ben


On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Paul Hewson wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> May I ask a naive follow up to this?   Having now been granted limited
> rights to use R-windows on a work PC, I wish to set up my home PC to
support
> compiling packages and so on.   I currently have a working Linux set-up at
> home, is there any general advice as to whether it would be better to add
in
> the cross-compilers there or is it better to persuade my home PC to dual
> boot windows and set up the full recommended windows compilation
collection.
>
> Thanks for any pointers
>
> Paul
>
> >From: Liaw, Andy (andy_liaw at merck.com)
> >Date: Wed Oct 17 2001 - 16:41:24 CEST
> >I agree with Mark about Linux, if for no other reasons than the fact
that
> it
> >actually comes with the compilers needed to build R and do further code
> >development. Compared with doing it on Linux, compiling R from source
on
> >Windows is not exactly a pleasure, even with the tremendous work to
make it
>
> >even possible by Ripley and Mararrato.
> >Cheers,
> >Andy
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Paul Hewson     tel. (01392) 382773
> Data Analyst and Research Officer
>
> Road Safety Team, Environment Directorate,
> Devon County Council,
> 1st Floor, Lucombe House,
> County Hall
> Topsham Road
> Exeter EX2 4QW
>
> tel (01392) 382773   fax (01392) 382135
> email phewson at devon.gov.uk
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>
>
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