R devel - Jun 2017 - Question about R developpment

Hi,

I had a question that might not seem obvious to me.

I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R core
team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified version
instead of having different teams developping their own version of R.

Is it because they don't want to team up? Is it because you don't want?
Any
particular reasons? Different philosophies?

Thank you
Kind regards
Morgan

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> On Jun 10, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Morgan <2005.morgan at gmail.com>
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I had a question that might not seem obvious to me.
> 
> I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R core
> team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified version
> instead of having different teams developping their own version of R.
> 
> Is it because they don't want to team up? Is it because you don't
want? Any
> particular reasons? Different philosophies?
> 
> Thank you
> Kind regards
> Morgan
> 
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On 10/06/2017 2:38 PM, Morgan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had a question that might not seem obvious to me.
>
> I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R core
> team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified version
> instead of having different teams developping their own version of R.
As far as I know, there's only one version of R currently being 
developed.  Microsoft doesn't offer anything different; they just offer 
a build of a slightly older version of base R, and a few packages that 
are not in the base version.

Duncan Murdoch

I would describe MRO as a distribution of R, in the same way that Fedora,
Debian, SUSE etc are distributions of Linux. It is not fundamentally different
from the version of R that you can download from CRAN but the binary builds
offer some specific features:

1) The binary build is linked to the Intel Math Kernel Library (MKL) which may
increase the speed of some matrix operations
2) Packages are downloaded from MRAN, Microsoft's time-stamped copy of CRAN.
This can help with reproducibility of analyses that rely on CRAN packages.

As far as I know, all of the additional packages that are bundled with MRO are
freely distributable and also available from CRAN. As Roy points out, both
Microsoft and the R Foundation are partners in the R Consortium. So we do talk
to each other as well as other stakeholders who participate in the Consortium.

Martyn
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Subject: Re: [Rd] Question about R developpment

On 10/06/2017 2:38 PM, Morgan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had a question that might not seem obvious to me.
>
> I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R core
> team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified version
> instead of having different teams developping their own version of R.
As far as I know, there's only one version of R currently being
developed.  Microsoft doesn't offer anything different; they just offer
a build of a slightly older version of base R, and a few packages that
are not in the base version.

Duncan Murdoch

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On 10/06/2017 6:09 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> On 10/06/2017 2:38 PM, Morgan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I had a question that might not seem obvious to me.
>>
>> I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R
core
>> team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified
version
>> instead of having different teams developping their own version of R.
>
> As far as I know, there's only one version of R currently being
> developed.  Microsoft doesn't offer anything different; they just offer
> a build of a slightly older version of base R, and a few packages that
> are not in the base version.
Actually, I think my first sentence above is wrong.  Besides the base R 
that the core R team works on, there are a few other implementations of 
the language:  pqR, for instance.  But as others have said, the 
Microsoft product is simply a repackaging of the core R, so my second 
sentence is right.

Duncan Murdoch