Hi, I had a question that might not seem obvious to me. I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R core team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified version instead of having different teams developping their own version of R. Is it because they don't want to team up? Is it because you don't want? Any particular reasons? Different philosophies? Thank you Kind regards Morgan [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
https://www.r-consortium.org -Roy> On Jun 10, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Morgan <2005.morgan at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I had a question that might not seem obvious to me. > > I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R core > team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified version > instead of having different teams developping their own version of R. > > Is it because they don't want to team up? Is it because you don't want? Any > particular reasons? Different philosophies? > > Thank you > Kind regards > Morgan > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel********************** "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government or NOAA." ********************** Roy Mendelssohn Supervisory Operations Research Analyst NOAA/NMFS Environmental Research Division Southwest Fisheries Science Center ***Note new street address*** 110 McAllister Way Santa Cruz, CA 95060 Phone: (831)-420-3666 Fax: (831) 420-3980 e-mail: Roy.Mendelssohn at noaa.gov www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/ "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." "From those who have been given much, much will be expected" "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr.
On 10/06/2017 2:38 PM, Morgan wrote:> Hi, > > I had a question that might not seem obvious to me. > > I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R core > team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified version > instead of having different teams developping their own version of R.As far as I know, there's only one version of R currently being developed. Microsoft doesn't offer anything different; they just offer a build of a slightly older version of base R, and a few packages that are not in the base version. Duncan Murdoch
I would describe MRO as a distribution of R, in the same way that Fedora, Debian, SUSE etc are distributions of Linux. It is not fundamentally different from the version of R that you can download from CRAN but the binary builds offer some specific features: 1) The binary build is linked to the Intel Math Kernel Library (MKL) which may increase the speed of some matrix operations 2) Packages are downloaded from MRAN, Microsoft's time-stamped copy of CRAN. This can help with reproducibility of analyses that rely on CRAN packages. As far as I know, all of the additional packages that are bundled with MRO are freely distributable and also available from CRAN. As Roy points out, both Microsoft and the R Foundation are partners in the R Consortium. So we do talk to each other as well as other stakeholders who participate in the Consortium. Martyn ________________________________________ From: R-devel <r-devel-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> Sent: 11 June 2017 00:09 To: Morgan; r-devel at r-project.org Subject: Re: [Rd] Question about R developpment On 10/06/2017 2:38 PM, Morgan wrote:> Hi, > > I had a question that might not seem obvious to me. > > I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R core > team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified version > instead of having different teams developping their own version of R.As far as I know, there's only one version of R currently being developed. Microsoft doesn't offer anything different; they just offer a build of a slightly older version of base R, and a few packages that are not in the base version. Duncan Murdoch ______________________________________________ R-devel at r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message and its attachments are strictly confidenti...{{dropped:8}}
On 10/06/2017 6:09 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:> On 10/06/2017 2:38 PM, Morgan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I had a question that might not seem obvious to me. >> >> I was wondering why there was no patnership between microsoft the R core >> team and eventually other developpers to improve R in one unified version >> instead of having different teams developping their own version of R. > > As far as I know, there's only one version of R currently being > developed. Microsoft doesn't offer anything different; they just offer > a build of a slightly older version of base R, and a few packages that > are not in the base version.Actually, I think my first sentence above is wrong. Besides the base R that the core R team works on, there are a few other implementations of the language: pqR, for instance. But as others have said, the Microsoft product is simply a repackaging of the core R, so my second sentence is right. Duncan Murdoch