R devel - Nov 2002 - R mailing lists: move from majordomo to [procmail+mailman]

We have locally collected good experience the last few weeks
using procmail-spam filtering, inclduing spamassassin to the
procmail filters.

The last two spams that went past the majordomo filters (the
"traditional ones I've been using) through to R-devel both were not
delivered to me, be but caught by the filters.

I have now collected a bit more of a week experience using the
new scheme also for R-core (and ESS-core) and few other larger
lists but with *much* lower volume successfully.
Also, all the R-SIG-* and the bioconductor lists are handled by
the new scheme. 
This also entails that their web interface (including archives)
can now be advertized as much as you want, since I hope the new
spam protection will suffice (and be tweaked to become better, too).

Have a look at the Web interface at
http://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/

As indicated a few days ago, I want to convert all the remaining
R lists ASAP -- but carefully. 
I plan to do R-devel quite a bit before R-help (and R-announce),
partly because the list is quite a bit smaller (and has no
"gateway" as the R-announce -> R-help one).

I'll send another e-mail here, before the (visible) action
really start.

Feedback welcome!
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This was the only feedback I got.
>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Dewey
<michael.dewey@nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>     on Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:14:45 +0000 writes:
    Michael> I looked at the page you mentioned in the body of
    Michael> your post, but I got a series of messages about
    Michael> your security certificate first, before I got
    Michael> through. Is that (a) a problem with me (b) a
    Michael> problem at your end (c) just one of those things?

It's (b) and (c)

b) We use https (secure layer stuff) but cannot give out
   completely painless certificates.  
   This may or may not be improved ;-)

c) If you accept the certificate, you won't be asked
   ___in that browser session__ (only).

    Michael> -- Michael Dewey Trent Institute for Health
    Michael> Services Research

I now plan to do the *big change* (R-devel only) coming
Monday.

Martin Maechler <maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch>
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I have done the announced move now (~ 2 hours ago).

The biggest changes is probably for the former subscribers of 
"R-devel-digest" : You are now subscribed to R-devel with the
"digest" option activated.  

Also note that the digests are now *daily* (instead of 3 times a week).
This could be changed with some effort, but does not correspond
to general Mailman setup/philosophy/documentation.

Further, currently the digests are sent at noon (localtime aka
MET or {i.e. UTC+1 or UTC+2 in "summer time"}.  This also
corresponds to mailman defaults, but could be changed easily.

Feedback welcome, to me privately, or to the list if
appropriate. I'm particularly interested in the observed delays
(visible via the message headers, e.g.), since mailman has a
different way of sending things out.

Martin Maechler <maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch>
http://stat.ethz.ch/~maechler/
Seminar fuer Statistik, ETH-Zentrum  LEO C16	Leonhardstr. 27
ETH (Federal Inst. Technology)	8092 Zurich	SWITZERLAND
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