Puppet users - Apr 2013 - Anyone managed to integrate Ambari/Hortonworks with an existing puppet installation?

Hi All

We''re investigating the Hortonworks Hadoop Data Platform. It uses the
Apache Ambari installer, and we are running into problems as the
installation notes (http://hortonworks.com/hdp110-hmc-quick-start-guide/)
for the application say (and I kid you not):

*Remove or disable any existing Puppet agent configurations
*
It seems that its management centre runs as a puppet master and all nodes
are puppet agents. So, it is implying we can''t run the management
centre
using *our* puppet masters. And really, we''re not going to do that -
we''re
not going back to having special little snow flakes scattered around the
place

So, do people use Hortonworks/Ambari within their own puppet installations?
And what do people think about this sort of package that assumes it is the
only puppet installation within an organisation? It seems Ambari are aware
of the situation (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-665), but
aren''t doing much about it

Thanks

John
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That sounds a bit restrictive.

I would be investigating whether you can add your modules and manifests to
the puppet master they use for the management server.


On 11 April 2013 10:22, John Warburton <jwarburton@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> We''re investigating the Hortonworks Hadoop Data Platform. It uses
the
> Apache Ambari installer, and we are running into problems as the
> installation notes (http://hortonworks.com/hdp110-hmc-quick-start-guide/)
> for the application say (and I kid you not):
>
> *Remove or disable any existing Puppet agent configurations
> *
> It seems that its management centre runs as a puppet master and all nodes
> are puppet agents. So, it is implying we can''t run the management
centre
> using *our* puppet masters. And really, we''re not going to do that
-
> we''re not going back to having special little snow flakes
scattered around
> the place
>
> So, do people use Hortonworks/Ambari within their own puppet
> installations? And what do people think about this sort of package that
> assumes it is the only puppet installation within an organisation? It seems
> Ambari are aware of the situation (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-665), but aren''t
doing much
> about it
>
> Thanks
>
> John
> --
> John Warburton
> Ph: 0417 299 600
> Email: jwarburton@gmail.com
>
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Hi John,

You are looking at an old version of HDP (1.1).
The current version is HDP 1.2.3.1: 
http://docs.hortonworks.com/HDPDocuments/HDP1/HDP-1.2.3.1/bk_using_Ambari_book/content/ambari-chap1.html
HDP 1.2.3.1 is based on Ambari 1.2.2, which is very different from the 
Ambari version packaged with HDP 1.1 (based on Ambari 0.9).
Ambari 1.2.* line is a complete rewrite of Ambari, and does not use 
Puppet''s master-agent architecture unlike its predecessor.
It does use Puppet, but only in "local apply" mode to manage package 
installation, user/group creation, and such, on the managed hosts.
The Puppet library that is used by the Ambari agent is completely sandboxed 
- it will not interfere with your existing Puppet installation.

Yusaku


On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:22:45 PM UTC-7, John Warburton
wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> We''re investigating the Hortonworks Hadoop Data Platform. It uses
the
> Apache Ambari installer, and we are running into problems as the 
> installation notes (http://hortonworks.com/hdp110-hmc-quick-start-guide/) 
> for the application say (and I kid you not):
>  
> *Remove or disable any existing Puppet agent configurations
> *
> It seems that its management centre runs as a puppet master and all nodes 
> are puppet agents. So, it is implying we can''t run the management
centre
> using *our* puppet masters. And really, we''re not going to do that
-
> we''re not going back to having special little snow flakes
scattered around
> the place
>
> So, do people use Hortonworks/Ambari within their own puppet 
> installations? And what do people think about this sort of package that 
> assumes it is the only puppet installation within an organisation? It seems
> Ambari are aware of the situation (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-665), but aren''t
doing much
> about it
>
> Thanks
>
> John
> -- 
> John Warburton
> Ph: 0417 299 600
> Email: jwarb...@gmail.com <javascript:> 
>
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On 18 April 2013 14:35, Yusaku Sako <u39kun@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> You are looking at an old version of HDP (1.1).
>
> The Puppet library that is used by the Ambari agent is completely
> sandboxed - it will not interfere with your existing Puppet installation.
> Yusaku
>
Thanks Yusaku - that will make us much happier

John

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