Bob Apthorpe
2007-Apr-30 05:39 UTC
Installing puppetmasterd, puppetd as services under Red Hat, CentOS
Hi, Since I''ve installed ruby and ruby-gems from source, then installed facter and puppet as gems, I don''t get the usual startup scripts shipped with RPMs. Rebuilding the ruby RPM is painful, mostly because Red Hat (and pretty much every vendor) have this tendency to include random files and patch the living daylights out of a perfectly good source package so that converting the ruby 1.6.8 spec file (RHEL3) to repackage ruby 1.8.x is prohibitively frustrating. The joys of open source vendor lock-in... Installing from source works reasonably well (despite it not scaling) but leads to problems like /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory when one naively tries to use /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/puppet-0.22.3/conf/redhat/client.init /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/puppet-0.22.3/conf/redhat/server.init :( Aside: --port=${PUPPET_PORT} makes puppetd gag; that should probably be fixed. I''ve worked around this by changing #!/usr/bin/env ruby to #!/usr/local/bin/ruby in puppetmasterd, puppetd, and ralsh, but something tells me this is not the right way to fix this problem. I tried adding /usr/local/bin to PATH in the init.d scripts to no effect. FWIW, when I initially read through the site docs I couldn''t find an explanation of the right way to install the puppet client and server as services so I made something up based on random files I found in Trac (something involving cron.hourly.) I''ve mostly fixed the init scripts and the daemons but I''m still not convinced that I''m doing this right - mainly because it''s taken a lot of work... :) Thoughts? -- Bob
HARRIS Jimmy \(AXA-Tech-AU\)
2007-Apr-30 05:55 UTC
Re: Installing puppetmasterd, puppetd as services under Red Hat, CentOS
> Rebuilding the ruby RPM is painful, mostly because Red Hat > (and pretty much every vendor) have this tendency to include > random files and patch the living daylights out of a > perfectly good source package so that converting the ruby > 1.6.8 spec file (RHEL3) to repackage ruby 1.8.x is > prohibitively frustrating. The joys of open source vendor lock-in...I used the FC6 src rpm when I built RHEL4 x86_64 packages and didn''t have to edit the spec file at all from memory.> FWIW, when I initially read through the site docs I couldn''t > find an explanation of the right way to install the puppet > client and server as services so I made something up based on > random files I found in Trac (something involving > cron.hourly.) I''ve mostly fixed the init scripts and the > daemons but I''m still not convinced that I''m doing this right > - mainly because it''s taken a lot of work... :)Are you using the rpms for puppet and puppet-server? It should just be a matter of installing them and then starting the puppet/puppetmaster like you would with any other service (service puppet start). James ********************************************************************************* Important Note This email (including any attachments) contains information which is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, distribute or copy this email. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this email. Any views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of AXA-Tech Australia. Thank you. **********************************************************************************
HARRIS Jimmy \(AXA-Tech-AU\)
2007-Apr-30 05:57 UTC
Re: Installing puppetmasterd, puppetd as services under Red Hat, CentOS
> > FWIW, when I initially read through the site docs I > couldn''t find an > > explanation of the right way to install the puppet client > and server > > as services so I made something up based on random files I found in > > Trac (something involving > > cron.hourly.) I''ve mostly fixed the init scripts and the > daemons but > > I''m still not convinced that I''m doing this right > > - mainly because it''s taken a lot of work... :) > > Are you using the rpms for puppet and puppet-server? It > should just be a matter of installing them and then starting > the puppet/puppetmaster like you would with any other service > (service puppet start).Sorry, missed the bit when you said you''d installed using gems. James ********************************************************************************* Important Note This email (including any attachments) contains information which is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, distribute or copy this email. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this email. Any views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of AXA-Tech Australia. Thank you. **********************************************************************************
Bob Apthorpe
2007-Apr-30 07:17 UTC
Re: Installing puppetmasterd, puppetd as services under Red Hat, CentOS
Hi, [pardon the rant; it''s late, I''ve had a few beers, and digging into the innards of Red Hat packages brings out the worst in me] HARRIS Jimmy (AXA-Tech-AU) wrote:>> Rebuilding the ruby RPM is painful, mostly because Red Hat >> (and pretty much every vendor) have this tendency to include >> random files and patch the living daylights out of a >> perfectly good source package so that converting the ruby >> 1.6.8 spec file (RHEL3) to repackage ruby 1.8.x is >> prohibitively frustrating. The joys of open source vendor lock-in... > > I used the FC6 src rpm when I built RHEL4 x86_64 packages and didn''t > have to edit the spec file at all from memory.I just tried rebuilding the CentOS 5 ruby SRPM on a CentOS 3 box resulting in typical Red Hat rebuild hell. For some inexplicable reason, ruby "needs" libX11-devel which apparently changes name version to version (this is easy to change to XFree86-devel in CentOS 3 and to xorg-x11-devel in CentOS 4) and a newer version of autoconf, as if Ruby''s supplied ''configure'' script just isn''t good enough. I understand what the Red Hat build team is doing; regardless, I believe they need a sound beating. Luckily for them, the Blackboard developers are top of my list, followed by the Tomcat developers -- it''s a good thing I only believe in cartoon violence... :/ What I need is a spec file that does tar xf ruby-1.8.x.tar.gz cd ruby-1.8.x ./configure && make && make install and absolutely nothing else (unit tests would be nice but I won''t quibble.) No X11, no emacs mode, no tcl/Tk bindings(!), no docs collected from hither and yon, just the @#$%! interpreter and the standard @#$%! utilities that come with it. Note that updating the CentOS 3 systems is a nonstarter; they run just fine and I have zero motivation to move Oracle for the convenience of the Red Hat build team. They''ll get upgraded once someone puts a gun to my head to install 10g and not a second sooner. :) Anyway, the trick is to tweak the puppet spec file to look for a recent ruby interpreter instead of the unbuildable ruby RPM (OT: Maybe one day they''ll update rpm.org with the docs at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts/rpm-guide-en/ instead of keeping the stale "Maximum RPM" docs out as bait for the unwary.) I''ve got my work cut out for me... -- Bob
David Lutterkort
2007-Apr-30 21:47 UTC
Re: Installing puppetmasterd, puppetd as services under Red Hat, CentOS
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 00:39 -0500, Bob Apthorpe wrote:> Rebuilding the ruby RPM is painful, mostly because Red Hat (and pretty > much every vendor) have this tendency to include random files and patch > the living daylights out of a perfectly good source package so that > converting the ruby 1.6.8 spec file (RHEL3) to repackage ruby 1.8.x is > prohibitively frustrating. The joys of open source vendor lock-in...Have you tried going the other way ? Start with the FC6 or RHEL5 ruby specfile and hack it into shape to build on RHEL3. Haven''t tried it myself though ... David
Bob Apthorpe
2007-Apr-30 21:49 UTC
Re: Installing puppetmasterd, puppetd as services under Red Hat, CentOS
Hi, David Lutterkort wrote:> On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 00:39 -0500, Bob Apthorpe wrote: >> Rebuilding the ruby RPM is painful, mostly because Red Hat (and pretty >> much every vendor) have this tendency to include random files and patch >> the living daylights out of a perfectly good source package so that >> converting the ruby 1.6.8 spec file (RHEL3) to repackage ruby 1.8.x is >> prohibitively frustrating. The joys of open source vendor lock-in... > > Have you tried going the other way ? Start with the FC6 or RHEL5 ruby > specfile and hack it into shape to build on RHEL3. Haven''t tried it > myself though ...Yeah; I had a little rant about it last night. Essentially, the RHEL5 SRPM still wants a bunch of irrelevant junk (X11 libraries, etc.) so it can build emacs mode, tcl/Tk bindings, and a lot of other nonsense. I suspect I''m going to have to build a spec file from scratch if I want a simple ruby RPM. -- Bob
HARRIS Jimmy \(AXA-Tech-AU\)
2007-Apr-30 23:46 UTC
Re: Installing puppetmasterd, puppetd as services under Red Hat, CentOS
> What I need is a spec file that does > > tar xf ruby-1.8.x.tar.gz > cd ruby-1.8.x > ./configure && make && make install > > and absolutely nothing else (unit tests would be nice but I won''t > quibble.) No X11, no emacs mode, no tcl/Tk bindings(!), no > docs collected from hither and yon, just the @#$%! > interpreter and the standard @#$%! utilities that come with it.Have you tried using CheckInstall (http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/)? I discovered it last week when I was installing FastCGI for a Rails installation. It runs "make install" for you and creates an rpm of the resulting files. Seemed to work well with FastCGI but I haven''t tried it on anything more complex yet. James ********************************************************************************* Important Note This email (including any attachments) contains information which is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, distribute or copy this email. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this email. Any views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of AXA-Tech Australia. Thank you. **********************************************************************************
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