> >> Maybe it's not a standard ethernet-to-UPS cable? > > That's Ben's point - either it is actual Ethernet (usually found on an add-on UPS SNMP monitoring card, where the jack typically has two status LEDs, one on either side of the notch for the modular plug tab) that needs to go to another Ethernet jack on a NIC or a switch, or it is a proprietary APC cable that vaguely resembles an Ethernet cable on one end. (I was incorrect when I said 8P8C before - MGE uses 8P8C modular jacks for similar USB/serial proprietary cables.) > > It might be this 10-pin modular connector: http://pinoutguide.com/UPS/apc_usb_cable_pinout.shtml <http://pinoutguide.com/UPS/apc_usb_cable_pinout.shtml>Correction to my correction: apparently APC uses both 8-pin and 10-pin modular jacks. The SmartUPS C1000 has a 10-pin jack labeled serial (and the industry-standard USB Type B jack for USB, hooray), but for your models, a few images online seem to show an 8-pin jack labeled "data port" for the BackUPS Pro 1000 and BackUPS NS 1080. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/nut-upsuser/attachments/20181227/0fac02f0/attachment.html>
On 12/27/18 10:17 AM, Charles Lepple wrote:>> >>> Maybe it's not a standard ethernet-to-UPS cable? >> >> That's Ben's point - either it is actual Ethernet (usually found on an add-on UPS SNMP monitoring card, where the jack typically has two status LEDs, one on either side of the notch for the modular plug tab) that needs to go to another Ethernet jack on a NIC or a switch, or it is a proprietary APC cable that vaguely resembles an Ethernet cable on one end. (I was incorrect when I said 8P8C before - MGE uses 8P8C modular jacks for similar USB/serial proprietary cables.)And I should have added similar commentary. unless the UPS comes with known networking hardware, that 8P8C is probably not ethernet. I should have added -- I have a Back-UPS 350 that has an 8P8C connector on it that plugs into USB. it's a low-cost, non-network enable UPS. So I wouldn't have assumed it was ethernet. (knowing APC and the model). But Cisco uses 8P8C connectors on their switches as a console plug too. (non-ethernet usage) and the phone company used them LONG before anyone for things like T1 lines.>> >> It might be this 10-pin modular connector: http://pinoutguide.com/UPS/apc_usb_cable_pinout.shtml > > Correction to my correction: apparently APC uses both 8-pin and 10-pin modular jacks. > > The SmartUPS C1000 has a 10-pin jack labeled serial (and the industry-standard USB Type B jack for USB, hooray), but for your models, a few images online seem to show an 8-pin jack labeled "data port" for the BackUPS Pro 1000 and BackUPS NS 1080.Thanks for the additional info. Cheers, -Ben -- Ben Kamen - O.D.T., S.P. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Email: ben AT benkamen DOT net http://www.benkamen.net Cell: 224.619.9006 http://www.linkedin.com/in/benkamen - - NOTICE: All legal disclaimers sent to benkamen.net or any of its affiliated domains are rendered null and void on receipt of communications and will be handled/considered as such. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/nut-upsuser/attachments/20181227/e1fb53f6/attachment-0001.html>
On 12/27/18 8:09 AM, Charles Lepple wrote:> If you leave off the "-d 051d:" part, do you see anything in the > listing that looks like it could be the UPS? (The 051d vendor ID is > for the vast majority of APC UPS models, but we have seen a few other > IDs here and there - mostly from acquisitions.) > > For instance, this is what one of my development boxes shows for a > Smart-UPS C1000: > > [...] > > Another thing to try is to unplug the USB cable, run something like > "dmesg -w" ("-w" to follow the output; otherwise just run "dmesg | > tail" afterwards) and see if you see any messages about new USB > devices after you re-insert the USB cable. If the Linux kernel can't > see the device, neither can NUT.It's not detected at all. I should have said that at first.>> Maybe it's not a standard ethernet-to-UPS cable? > > That's Ben's point - either it is actual Ethernet (usually found on an > add-on UPS SNMP monitoring card, where the jack typically has two > status LEDs, one on either side of the notch for the modular plug tab) > that needs to go to another Ethernet jack on a NIC or a switch, or it > is a proprietary APC cable that vaguely resembles an Ethernet cable on > one end. (I was incorrect when I said 8P8C before - MGE uses 8P8C > modular jacks for similar USB/serial proprietary cables.) > > It might be this 10-pin modular connector: > http://pinoutguide.com/UPS/apc_usb_cable_pinout.shtmlOn 12/27/18 8:17 AM, Charles Lepple wrote:>> >>> Maybe it's not a standard ethernet-to-UPS cable? >> >> That's Ben's point - either it is actual Ethernet (usually found on >> an add-on UPS SNMP monitoring card, where the jack typically has two >> status LEDs, one on either side of the notch for the modular plug >> tab) that needs to go to another Ethernet jack on a NIC or a switch, >> or it is a proprietary APC cable that vaguely resembles an Ethernet >> cable on one end. (I was incorrect when I said 8P8C before - MGE uses >> 8P8C modular jacks for similar USB/serial proprietary cables.) >> >> It might be this 10-pin modular connector: >> http://pinoutguide.com/UPS/apc_usb_cable_pinout.shtml > > Correction to my correction: apparently APC uses both 8-pin and 10-pin > modular jacks. > > The SmartUPS C1000 has a 10-pin jack labeled serial (and the > industry-standard USB Type B jack for USB, hooray), but for your > models, a few images online seem to show an 8-pin jack labeled "data > port" for the BackUPS Pro 1000 and BackUPS NS 1080.But these eight-pin ones aren't actually ethernet? If not, I hope APC sells extras...
On December 28, 2018 8:24:40 AM GMT+02:00, David Melik <davidnchmelik at gmail.com> wrote:>On 12/27/18 8:09 AM, Charles Lepple wrote: >> If you leave off the "-d 051d:" part, do you see anything in the >> listing that looks like it could be the UPS? (The 051d vendor ID is >> for the vast majority of APC UPS models, but we have seen a few other > >> IDs here and there - mostly from acquisitions.) >> >> For instance, this is what one of my development boxes shows for a >> Smart-UPS C1000: >> >> [...] >> >> Another thing to try is to unplug the USB cable, run something like >> "dmesg -w" ("-w" to follow the output; otherwise just run "dmesg | >> tail" afterwards) and see if you see any messages about new USB >> devices after you re-insert the USB cable. If the Linux kernel can't >> see the device, neither can NUT. > >It's not detected at all. I should have said that at first.Then you are not using the correct cable> >>> >But these eight-pin ones aren't actually ethernet? If not, I hope APC >sells extras...No, they are USB cables with dubious connectors :) You could look for the pinout on internet and make one. That's what I did. After all there are only 4 wires. 2 for data, V+ and V-.
On 12/28/18 12:24 AM, David Melik wrote:> > On 12/27/18 8:17 AM, Charles Lepple wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe it's not a standard ethernet-to-UPS cable? >>> >>> That's Ben's point - either it is actual Ethernet (usually found on an add-on UPS SNMP monitoring card, where the jack typically has two status LEDs, one on either side of the notch for the modular plug tab) that needs to go to another Ethernet jack on a NIC or a switch, or it is a proprietary APC cable that vaguely resembles an Ethernet cable on one end. (I was incorrect when I said 8P8C before - MGE uses 8P8C modular jacks for similar USB/serial proprietary cables.) >>> >>> It might be this 10-pin modular connector: http://pinoutguide.com/UPS/apc_usb_cable_pinout.shtml >> >> Correction to my correction: apparently APC uses both 8-pin and 10-pin modular jacks. >> >> The SmartUPS C1000 has a 10-pin jack labeled serial (and the industry-standard USB Type B jack for USB, hooray), but for your models, a few images online seem to show an 8-pin jack labeled "data port" for the BackUPS Pro 1000 and BackUPS NS 1080. > > But these eight-pin ones aren't actually ethernet? If not, I hope APC sells extras...I'm sure they do. (sell extra cables) -- plus if you have crimpers and a USB cable with a dead micro/mini end, making another cable wouldn't be hard. It's most definitely not Ethernet. LIke I said - I have a BackUPS 350... it has the 8p8c modular connector and came with a cable that plugs into USB. -Ben -- Ben Kamen - O.D.T., S.P. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Email: ben AT benkamen DOT net http://www.benkamen.net Cell: 224.619.9006 http://www.linkedin.com/in/benkamen - - NOTICE: All legal disclaimers sent to benkamen.net or any of its affiliated domains are rendered null and void on receipt of communications and will be handled/considered as such.