Nut upsuser - Jan 2015 - NUT configuration with APC CS650 and ESXi host

Hello,

I have decided to upgrade my home server by turning it into an ESXi host
and have also added an APC CS650 UPS.
My plan was to have NUT version 2.6.4 running in a Debian 7.7.0 virtual
machine, NUT installed using apt.
I configured NUT to run as a netserver, installed the ESXi nut .vib,
configured the shutdowncmd in the VM to do nothing, so that the ESXi host
would close that virtual machine last and only before it would shut down,
it would call the poweroff command. I set the offdelay option of the ups to
300s and ondelay option to 600s and here comes in my problem, whenever the
battery.low condition or the upssched script calls the FSD action,
everything will beging to shut down normally, except that the UPS will turn
off the load in about 100 seconds (while the ESXi host still needs over a
minute to shutdown and the VM has not yet called the poweroff flag).
I am at a bit of a loss what I could even try here, the only method that
seems to signal the ESXi host running the NUT slave service seems to be
calling the fsd action, the offdelay settings do nothing, I tried running a
shutdown.stop command which didn't do anything either. Any ideas, or is
this impossible with this UPS?

Thank you in advance
DGC
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On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:11 PM, DatGingerCat <dat.ginger.cat at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have decided to upgrade my home server by turning it into an ESXi host
and have also added an APC CS650 UPS.
> My plan was to have NUT version 2.6.4 running in a Debian 7.7.0 virtual
machine, NUT installed using apt.
> I configured NUT to run as a netserver, installed the ESXi nut .vib,
configured the shutdowncmd in the VM to do nothing, so that the ESXi host would
close that virtual machine last and only before it would shut down, it would
call the poweroff command. I set the offdelay option of the ups to 300s and
ondelay option to 600s
Ren? Garcia, the author of the ESXi .vib, is subscribed to this list - perhaps
he has some suggestions for other settings there?

We also don't have a lot of information on the APC CS650 specifically. There
is a DDL entry for the Back-UPS CS 650IE, which may be similar; however, we
don't have much information on whether the various options work as expected:

http://buildbot.networkupstools.org/~buildbot/cayman/docs/latest/ddl/APC/Back-UPS_CS_650IE.html

Does your serial number or firmware version look similar, or completely
different?

Also, after you set offdelay, is there a corresponding timer variable in the
'upsc' output? It is possible that the CS650 is using a different HID
path for that timer (there are at least three in drivers/apc-hid.c).
> and here comes in my problem, whenever the battery.low condition or the
upssched script calls the FSD action, everything will beging to shut down
normally, except that the UPS will turn off the load in about 100 seconds (while
the ESXi host still needs over a minute to shutdown and the VM has not yet
called the poweroff flag).
> I am at a bit of a loss what I could even try here, the only method that
seems to signal the ESXi host running the NUT slave service seems to be calling
the fsd action, the offdelay settings do nothing, I tried running a
shutdown.stop command which didn't do anything either. Any ideas, or is this
impossible with this UPS?
> 
> Thank you in advance
> DGC
-- 
Charles Lepple
clepple at gmail



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The serial number looks completely different, but the firmware seems to be
the same. Pasting upsc output:

battery.charge: 80
battery.charge.low: 10
battery.charge.warning: 50
battery.date: 2013/12/04
battery.mfr.date: 2013/12/04
battery.runtime: 1781
battery.runtime.low: 120
battery.temperature: 29.2
battery.type: PbAc
battery.voltage: 13.5
battery.voltage.nominal: 12.0
device.mfr: American Power Conversion
device.model: Back-UPS CS 650
device.serial: 4B1349P18417
device.type: ups
driver.name: usbhid-ups
driver.parameter.pollfreq: 30
driver.parameter.pollinterval: 2
driver.parameter.port: auto
driver.version: 2.6.4
driver.version.data: APC HID 0.95
driver.version.internal: 0.37
input.sensitivity: medium
input.transfer.high: 266
input.transfer.low: 180
input.voltage: 228.0
input.voltage.nominal: 230
output.frequency: 50.0
output.voltage: 230.0
output.voltage.nominal: 230.0
ups.beeper.status: enabled
ups.delay.shutdown: 20
ups.delay.start: 30
ups.firmware: 817.v9.I
ups.firmware.aux: v9
ups.load: 5.0
ups.mfr: American Power Conversion
ups.mfr.date: 2013/12/04
ups.model: Back-UPS CS 650
ups.productid: 0002
ups.realpower.nominal: 400
ups.serial: 4B1349P18417
ups.status: OL CHRG
ups.test.result: No test initiated
ups.timer.reboot: 0
ups.timer.shutdown: -1
ups.timer.start: 0
ups.vendorid: 051d


I have an update regarding my previous post however, I was wrong about the
poweroff flag not being called, it was in fact called, because if I
manually deleted the flag, the UPS would not shut down.

Another interesting behaviour I found was when using the upsc command, if I
set the ondelay and offdelay options in the ups.conf file, about a quarter
of the info in the upsc output is missing (including firmware and serial
number).

Also, the timer variables in the upcs output do not change, no matter if a
poweroff is initiated, or a shutdown, or delayed load turning off, the
timer variables are always as listed in the output above.

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Charles Lepple <clepple at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:11 PM, DatGingerCat <dat.ginger.cat at
gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have decided to upgrade my home server by turning it into an ESXi host
> and have also added an APC CS650 UPS.
> My plan was to have NUT version 2.6.4 running in a Debian 7.7.0 virtual
> machine, NUT installed using apt.
> I configured NUT to run as a netserver, installed the ESXi nut .vib,
> configured the shutdowncmd in the VM to do nothing, so that the ESXi host
> would close that virtual machine last and only before it would shut down,
> it would call the poweroff command. I set the offdelay option of the ups to
> 300s and ondelay option to 600s
>
>
> Ren? Garcia, the author of the ESXi .vib, is subscribed to this list -
> perhaps he has some suggestions for other settings there?
>
> We also don't have a lot of information on the APC CS650 specifically.
> There is a DDL entry for the Back-UPS CS 650IE, which may be similar;
> however, we don't have much information on whether the various options
work
> as expected:
>
>
>
http://buildbot.networkupstools.org/~buildbot/cayman/docs/latest/ddl/APC/Back-UPS_CS_650IE.html
>
> Does your serial number or firmware version look similar, or completely
> different?
>
> Also, after you set offdelay, is there a corresponding timer variable in
> the 'upsc' output? It is possible that the CS650 is using a
different HID
> path for that timer (there are at least three in drivers/apc-hid.c).
>
> and here comes in my problem, whenever the battery.low condition or the
> upssched script calls the FSD action, everything will beging to shut down
> normally, except that the UPS will turn off the load in about 100 seconds
> (while the ESXi host still needs over a minute to shutdown and the VM has
> not yet called the poweroff flag).
> I am at a bit of a loss what I could even try here, the only method that
> seems to signal the ESXi host running the NUT slave service seems to be
> calling the fsd action, the offdelay settings do nothing, I tried running a
> shutdown.stop command which didn't do anything either. Any ideas, or is
> this impossible with this UPS?
>
> Thank you in advance
> DGC
>
>
> --
> Charles Lepple
> clepple at gmail
>
>
>
>
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