Mongrel users - Oct 2006 - [ADV] "Mongrel: Serving, Deploying, and Extending Your Ruby Applications" BOOK

Zed -

If I purchase the PDF version, are updates going to be available similar 
to the PP books?  I admit I''m not familiar OReilly''s setup so
if it''s
blatantly obvious on their site just let me know.

Thanks -philip

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Zed A. Shaw wrote:
> Time for some all time pimpage folks.
>
> Me and Matt Pelletier wrote a small PDF book on Mongrel entitled:
"Mongrel: Serving, Deploying, and Extending Your Ruby Applications"
since we really wanted you to know what it was about.  It''s published
by Addison Wesley Professional, has just over 100 pages of goodness, and is
available for $14.99 at:
>
> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
>
> The book covers all the major topics related to Mongrel, but does it in a
quick fast way so you can get the idea, get a working setup going, and then do
more research for advanced stuff.
>
> We also tried to make it funny as hell.  I''m sure many people will
love it, and a few will hate it for this reason. :-)
>
> A main thing this book covers is how to write your own Mongrel handlers,
but it also goes over security, deployment, how Mongrel works, and many other
topics.
>
> Let me know what you think of the book if you buy it.
>
> Thanks for your time!
>
> -- 
> Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
> http://www.zedshaw.com/
> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
> http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
> http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>

On Oct 24, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Philip Hallstrom wrote:
> Zed -
>
> If I purchase the PDF version, are updates going to be available  
> similar
> to the PP books?  I admit I''m not familiar OReilly''s
setup so if it''s
> blatantly obvious on their site just let me know.
>
Philip,

Good question. We''ll ask the publisher for the specifics and let you  
know. Thanks!

Matt
> Thanks -philip
>
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Zed A. Shaw wrote:
>
>> Time for some all time pimpage folks.
>>
>> Me and Matt Pelletier wrote a small PDF book on Mongrel entitled:  
>> "Mongrel: Serving, Deploying, and Extending Your Ruby  
>> Applications" since we really wanted you to know what it was  
>> about.  It''s published by Addison Wesley Professional, has
just
>> over 100 pages of goodness, and is available for $14.99 at:
>>
>> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
>>
>> The book covers all the major topics related to Mongrel, but does  
>> it in a quick fast way so you can get the idea, get a working  
>> setup going, and then do more research for advanced stuff.
>>
>> We also tried to make it funny as hell.  I''m sure many people
will
>> love it, and a few will hate it for this reason. :-)
>>
>> A main thing this book covers is how to write your own Mongrel  
>> handlers, but it also goes over security, deployment, how Mongrel  
>> works, and many other topics.
>>
>> Let me know what you think of the book if you buy it.
>>
>> Thanks for your time!
>>
>> -- 
>> Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
>> http://www.zedshaw.com/
>> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
>> http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
>> http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Mongrel-users mailing list
>> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>
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Matt Pelletier
http://www.eastmedia.com -- EastMedia
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- Mongrel book with Zed Shaw
http://identity.eastmedia.com -- OpenID, Identity 2.0

Time for some all time pimpage folks.

Me and Matt Pelletier wrote a small PDF book on Mongrel entitled: "Mongrel:
Serving, Deploying, and Extending Your Ruby Applications" since we really
wanted you to know what it was about.  It''s published by Addison Wesley
Professional, has just over 100 pages of goodness, and is available for $14.99
at:

http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502

The book covers all the major topics related to Mongrel, but does it in a quick
fast way so you can get the idea, get a working setup going, and then do more
research for advanced stuff.

We also tried to make it funny as hell.  I''m sure many people will love
it, and a few will hate it for this reason. :-)

A main thing this book covers is how to write your own Mongrel handlers, but it
also goes over security, deployment, how Mongrel works, and many other topics.

Let me know what you think of the book if you buy it.

Thanks for your time!

-- 
Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
http://www.zedshaw.com/
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.

Just finished reading it and have to say that it was entertaining(?) reading
a ''guide'' which  frequently calls its reader a moron, an
idiot, a dumbass
and then finally tells him to get his panties out of a bunch.

Zed is true to form as always.

It has my must-read vote btw for anybody interested in deployment.

Later,
Vish

On 10/25/06, Matt Pelletier <matt at eastmedia.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Philip Hallstrom wrote:
>
> > Zed -
> >
> > If I purchase the PDF version, are updates going to be available
> > similar
> > to the PP books?  I admit I''m not familiar OReilly''s
setup so if it''s
> > blatantly obvious on their site just let me know.
> >
>
> Philip,
>
> Good question. We''ll ask the publisher for the specifics and let
you
> know. Thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> > Thanks -philip
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Zed A. Shaw wrote:
> >
> >> Time for some all time pimpage folks.
> >>
> >> Me and Matt Pelletier wrote a small PDF book on Mongrel entitled:
> >> "Mongrel: Serving, Deploying, and Extending Your Ruby
> >> Applications" since we really wanted you to know what it was
> >> about.  It''s published by Addison Wesley Professional,
has just
> >> over 100 pages of goodness, and is available for $14.99 at:
> >>
> >> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
> >>
> >> The book covers all the major topics related to Mongrel, but does
> >> it in a quick fast way so you can get the idea, get a working
> >> setup going, and then do more research for advanced stuff.
> >>
> >> We also tried to make it funny as hell.  I''m sure many
people will
> >> love it, and a few will hate it for this reason. :-)
> >>
> >> A main thing this book covers is how to write your own Mongrel
> >> handlers, but it also goes over security, deployment, how Mongrel
> >> works, and many other topics.
> >>
> >> Let me know what you think of the book if you buy it.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your time!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
> >> http://www.zedshaw.com/
> >> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
> >> http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
> >> http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Mongrel-users mailing list
> >> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mongrel-users mailing list
> > Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
> >
>
> ------------------
> Matt Pelletier
> http://www.eastmedia.com -- EastMedia
> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- Mongrel book with Zed Shaw
> http://identity.eastmedia.com -- OpenID, Identity 2.0
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>
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On 10/24/06, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com>
wrote:
> Time for some all time pimpage folks.
>
> Me and Matt Pelletier wrote a small PDF book on Mongrel entitled:
"Mongrel: Serving, Deploying, and Extending Your Ruby Applications"
since we really wanted you to know what it was about.  It''s published
by Addison Wesley Professional, has just over 100 pages of goodness, and is
available for $14.99 at:
>
> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
I just added this to my Safari bookshelf and look forward to reading
it.  It only took up a half slot too, so that''s a bonus.

-- James

I bought it, printed out a few chapters to read over.

I was a bit disappointed in the Performance chapter, since you mention
what you "should" be doing, but there isn''t an quick example.

I think something like that might be helpful for someone who''s never
done it before.

Otherwise the idea is easy to follow.

On 10/26/06, JDL <jamesludlow at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/24/06, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> > Time for some all time pimpage folks.
> >
> > Me and Matt Pelletier wrote a small PDF book on Mongrel entitled:
"Mongrel: Serving, Deploying, and Extending Your Ruby Applications"
since we really wanted you to know what it was about.  It''s published
by Addison Wesley Professional, has just over 100 pages of goodness, and is
available for $14.99 at:
> >
> > http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
>
> I just added this to my Safari bookshelf and look forward to reading
> it.  It only took up a half slot too, so that''s a bonus.
>
> -- James
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>

Heh, sounds like stuff Anthony Bourdain writes!

"what sets this one apart is Bourdain''s signature
wise-ass attitude that pervades nearly every recipe,
explanatory note and chapter introduction. Profanity
adds frequent color. If Aunt Doris would blanche at
pearl onions being called "little fuckers," a cook who
prefers boneless meat in Daube Proven al a "poor
deluded bastard," or a person nervous about making
these recipes a "dipshit," this book is not for her."

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?z=y&pwb=1&ean=9781582341804

Zed -- the Bourdain of Programming. :P

Joe

> Just finished reading it and have to say that it was
entertaining(?) reading
> a ''guide'' which  frequently calls its reader a
moron, an idiot, a dumbass
> and then finally tells him to get his panties out of
a bunch.
> 
> Zed is true to form as always.
> 
> It has my must-read vote btw for anybody interested
in deployment.
> 
> Later,
> Vish

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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:11:18 -0500
JDL <jamesludlow at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/24/06, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> > Time for some all time pimpage folks.
> >
> > Me and Matt Pelletier wrote a small PDF book on Mongrel entitled:
"Mongrel: Serving, Deploying, and Extending Your Ruby Applications"
since we really wanted you to know what it was about.  It''s published
by Addison Wesley Professional, has just over 100 pages of goodness, and is
available for $14.99 at:
> >
> > http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
> 
> I just added this to my Safari bookshelf and look forward to reading
> it.  It only took up a half slot too, so that''s a bonus.
> 
Nice, thanks James.  Be sure to tell me what you think.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
http://www.zedshaw.com/
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:05:28 +0530
"Vishnu Gopal" <g.vishnu at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just finished reading it and have to say that it was entertaining(?)
reading
> a ''guide'' which  frequently calls its reader a moron, an
idiot, a dumbass
> and then finally tells him to get his panties out of a bunch.
> 
> Zed is true to form as always.
> 
> It has my must-read vote btw for anybody interested in deployment.
Well, I figured I couldn''t let my regular readers down. :-)

But, I hope there was incredibly useful content mixed in with the humor.

Thanks for picking it up.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
http://www.zedshaw.com/
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:46:22 -0500
"Joey Geiger" <jgeiger at gmail.com> wrote:
> I bought it, printed out a few chapters to read over.
> 
> I was a bit disappointed in the Performance chapter, since you mention
> what you "should" be doing, but there isn''t an quick
example.
> 
> I think something like that might be helpful for someone who''s
never
> done it before.
> 
> Otherwise the idea is easy to follow.
Ah, good point.  Maybe I''ll throw something like that on the Mongrel
site and have an update to any errata referencing it.  Several folks have asked
for this in the past.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
http://www.zedshaw.com/
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.

On 10/26/06, Joey Geiger <jgeiger at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I bought it, printed out a few chapters to read over.
Ok, *how* did you buy it? The oreilly rough cuts page sez:

"If you''re not a Safari Subscriber, go to the book''s page
on
oreilly.com and click on the purchase link."

I''ve searched the page up and down, but can find no
''purchase'' link.

I want the pdf, but I don''t want to have to get a full safari
subscription. I just want to pay the $14.99 and be on my way. Any
hints?

James

On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, James Hughes wrote:
> I want the pdf, but I don''t want to have to get a full safari
> subscription. I just want to pay the $14.99 and be on my way. Any
> hints?
http://www.informit.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=9780321483508&rl=1

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:43:40 -0800
"James Hughes" <hughes.james at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/26/06, Joey Geiger <jgeiger at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I bought it, printed out a few chapters to read over.
> 
> Ok, *how* did you buy it? The oreilly rough cuts page sez:
> 
> "If you''re not a Safari Subscriber, go to the book''s
page on
> oreilly.com and click on the purchase link."
> 
> I''ve searched the page up and down, but can find no
''purchase'' link.
> 
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502

You should be able to get it there without any problems.  Let me know if you do
have some and I''ll talk to people.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
http://www.zedshaw.com/
http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.

Zed,

Just so you know I also experienced some confusion with the way the  
purchasing was setup.
Clicking on the buy now button is deceiving because it takes you to  
an entirely different context/site (apparently at the least).

It didn''t make it clear that I was purchasing a PDF and not a hard  
copy, so I restarted the checkout process a few times.
(Having 3 copies in my cart was amusing though ;))

	~Wayne

On Nov 05, 2006, at 19:35 , Zed A. Shaw wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:43:40 -0800
> "James Hughes" <hughes.james at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/26/06, Joey Geiger <jgeiger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I bought it, printed out a few chapters to read over.
>>
>> Ok, *how* did you buy it? The oreilly rough cuts page sez:
>>
>> "If you''re not a Safari Subscriber, go to the
book''s page on
>> oreilly.com and click on the purchase link."
>>
>> I''ve searched the page up and down, but can find no
''purchase'' link.
>>
>
> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
>
> You should be able to get it there without any problems.  Let me  
> know if you do have some and I''ll talk to people.
>
> -- 
> Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
> http://www.zedshaw.com/
> http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
> http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users

On 11/5/06, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:43:40 -0800
> "James Hughes" <hughes.james at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 10/26/06, Joey Geiger <jgeiger at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I bought it, printed out a few chapters to read over.
> >
> > Ok, *how* did you buy it? The oreilly rough cuts page sez:
> >
> > "If you''re not a Safari Subscriber, go to the
book''s page on
> > oreilly.com and click on the purchase link."
> >
> > I''ve searched the page up and down, but can find no
''purchase'' link.
> >
>
> http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
>
That''s where I''ve been going, but I see no option there to
purchase
the PDF for $14.95 as mentioned in your original message. There is a
link to download the PDF, but you have to purchase a full Safari
membership to do it. I don''t want a full  Safari membership; I just
want to buy a PDF of your book.

Are you sure this is possible?

James

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 19:47:44 -0800
"James Hughes" <hughes.james at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
> >
> 
> That''s where I''ve been going, but I see no option there
to purchase
> the PDF for $14.95 as mentioned in your original message. There is a
> link to download the PDF, but you have to purchase a full Safari
> membership to do it. I don''t want a full  Safari membership; I
just
> want to buy a PDF of your book.
> 
> Are you sure this is possible?
You know, this is kind of messed up.  Yeah, I went through it when we announced
it.

Here''s all the other links I know of to buy it at:

http://www.awprofessional.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0321483502&rl=1

http://www.informit.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=9780321483508&rl=1

And I''ll talk to the powers that be since that''s totally wrong
people can''t just buy the book outside of safari.  Am I crazy that they
used to be able to do this?

-- 
Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu
http://www.zedshaw.com/
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/
http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help.

I had the same sort of experience.

I gave up when the Safari hassle-full registration form complained about my
phone number being wrong.

Much of a pity because I would looooove to buy your book !

Regards,

Philippe.
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You could read it on Safari. I have a Safari subscription, and
although the reading interface is clumsy, it''s probably the cheapest
way to read good books. Lots of em.

Vish

On 11/6/06, philippe lachaise <philippe.lachaise at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I had the same sort of experience.
>
> I gave up when the Safari hassle-full registration form complained about my
> phone number being wrong.
>
> Much of a pity because I would looooove to buy your book !
>
> Regards,
>
> Philippe.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>
>

I bought it without doing the whole safari thing. I just got a PDF to download.

Can''t tell you the process I went through, but I don''t
remember it
being that complicated.

On 11/6/06, Vishnu Gopal <g.vishnu at gmail.com>
wrote:
> You could read it on Safari. I have a Safari subscription, and
> although the reading interface is clumsy, it''s probably the
cheapest
> way to read good books. Lots of em.
>
> Vish
>
> On 11/6/06, philippe lachaise <philippe.lachaise at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I had the same sort of experience.
> >
> > I gave up when the Safari hassle-full registration form complained
about my
> > phone number being wrong.
> >
> > Much of a pity because I would looooove to buy your book !
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Philippe.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mongrel-users mailing list
> > Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>

On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 09:42:14PM -0800, Zed A. Shaw
wrote:
>
http://www.awprofessional.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0321483502&rl=1
This is the link I used to purchase it.  Nice big "add to cart"
button,
then "Proceed to Checkout"... do all the normal fill out form stuff
for
delivery, then on the last page after you purchase it there should be a
link to download your pdf.  

Depending on your Safari membership you should be able to download
chapters for offline reading.  But in general, safari is not a download
and read service, its a read-online service.

enjoy,

-jeremy

-- 
======================================================================= Jeremy
Hinegardner                              jeremy at hinegardner.org

On 11/5/06, Wayne E. Seguin <wayneeseguin at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Zed,
>
> Just so you know I also experienced some confusion with the way the
> purchasing was setup.
> Clicking on the buy now button is deceiving because it takes you to
"Buy now"? I see no "buy now". At least not on the page
linked to by
Zed. Am I crazy,  or what?
jh

On 11/6/06, Vishnu Gopal <g.vishnu at gmail.com>
wrote:
> You could read it on Safari. I have a Safari subscription, and
> although the reading interface is clumsy, it''s probably the
cheapest
> way to read good books. Lots of em.

Yes, last resort I''ll read the html version. But I''m going on
a trip
and thought it might be nice to read the pdf offline.

thanks,
James

On 11/5/06, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 19:47:44 -0800
> "James Hughes" <hughes.james at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > >
> > > http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502
> > >
> >
> > That''s where I''ve been going, but I see no option
there to purchase
> > the PDF for $14.95 as mentioned in your original message. There is a
> > link to download the PDF, but you have to purchase a full Safari
> > membership to do it. I don''t want a full  Safari membership;
I just
> > want to buy a PDF of your book.
> >
> > Are you sure this is possible?
>
> You know, this is kind of messed up.  Yeah, I went through it when we
announced it.
>
> Here''s all the other links I know of to buy it at:
>
>
http://www.awprofessional.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0321483502&rl=1
>
Ok, this one worked, I have the PDF now. Seems like O''Reilly is
missing out on a lot of revenue by not letting people just purchase
ebooks outright like this.

Thanks for tracking down the links, Zed. Looking forward to reading the book.

James

Hi guys,

Just to chime in here, I have brought up these issues with the  
publisher and they are definitely listening. I don''t know how fast we  
can change the problem, but we''re working on it.

For now I think we might want to advertise a different URL (like the  
informit or awprofessional ones). Even though they all ultimately  
bring you to the same shopping cart, the Safari one might add a  
different requirement (like subscribing) along the way.

Just be aware that we are familiar with these issues. Has anyone else  
had these kinds of problems that could describe them in detail so we  
can forward them to the publisher? You can email me privately if you  
prefer.

Thanks to everyone who has (or wants to) buy the book.

Matt

On Nov 6, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Joey Geiger wrote:
> I bought it without doing the whole safari thing. I just got a PDF  
> to download.
>
> Can''t tell you the process I went through, but I don''t
remember it
> being that complicated.
>
> On 11/6/06, Vishnu Gopal <g.vishnu at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You could read it on Safari. I have a Safari subscription, and
>> although the reading interface is clumsy, it''s probably the
cheapest
>> way to read good books. Lots of em.
>>
>> Vish
>>
>> On 11/6/06, philippe lachaise <philippe.lachaise at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> I had the same sort of experience.
>>>
>>> I gave up when the Safari hassle-full registration form  
>>> complained about my
>>> phone number being wrong.
>>>
>>> Much of a pity because I would looooove to buy your book !
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Philippe.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Mongrel-users mailing list
>>> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>>>
>>>
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Matt Pelletier
http://www.eastmedia.com -- EastMedia
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
http://identity.eastmedia.com -- OpenID, Identity 2.0

To be clear, these two links will lead to the non-Safari purchase  
pages, where you can download the PDF directly and don'' t need to  
fuss with Safari subscription. The link below (that Jeremy used  
successfully) is the same thing.

http://www.informit.com/title/0321483502
http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0321483502

Thanks,
Matt

------------------
Matt Pelletier
http://www.eastmedia.com -- EastMedia
http://www.informit.com/title/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
http://identity.eastmedia.com -- OpenID, Identity 2.0


On Nov 6, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Jeremy Hinegardner wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 09:42:14PM -0800, Zed A. Shaw wrote:
>> http://www.awprofessional.com/bookstore/product.asp? 
>> isbn=0321483502&rl=1
>
> This is the link I used to purchase it.  Nice big "add to cart"  
> button,
> then "Proceed to Checkout"... do all the normal fill out form
stuff
> for
> delivery, then on the last page after you purchase it there should  
> be a
> link to download your pdf.
>
> Depending on your Safari membership you should be able to download
> chapters for offline reading.  But in general, safari is not a  
> download
> and read service, its a read-online service.
>
> enjoy,
>
> -jeremy
>
> -- 
> ====================================================================== 
> =>  Jeremy Hinegardner                               
> jeremy at hinegardner.org
>
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Good to know someone''s been listening :)

I must admit that having to fill in all this forms about my billing and
shipping address while all I wanted was to download a PDF was overtaxing my
patience.

Publishers must realize they can make unreasonable money with technical
publication about software like Mongrel but they must handle it right.

Developers are willing to pay (To pay ! Yes ! remember  they are used  to
downloading for free !)  for information. They feel good about giving money
for real value. They crave for it, they would kill for it, they would give
up coffee for it , they would...

But for God sake  don''t ask them to fill in forms !
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On Nov 6, 2006, at 1:20 PM, James Hughes wrote:
> On 11/5/06, Wayne E. Seguin <wayneeseguin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Zed,
>>
>> Just so you know I also experienced some confusion with the way the
>> purchasing was setup.
>> Clicking on the buy now button is deceiving because it takes you to
>
> "Buy now"? I see no "buy now". At least not on the page
linked to by
> Zed. Am I crazy,  or what?
"Add to Cart"

btw,  my posts to the list were delayed by an hour or so and came in  
out of order... but I think they''re easy to understand.
> jh
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http://www.eastmedia.com -- EastMedia
http://www.informit.com/title/0321483502 -- The Mongrel Book
http://identity.eastmedia.com -- OpenID, Identity 2.0

On 11/6/06, Matt Pelletier <matt at eastmedia.com>
wrote:
>
> On Nov 6, 2006, at 1:20 PM, James Hughes wrote:
>
> > On 11/5/06, Wayne E. Seguin <wayneeseguin at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Zed,
> >>
> >> Just so you know I also experienced some confusion with the way
the
> >> purchasing was setup.
> >> Clicking on the buy now button is deceiving because it takes you
to
> >
> > "Buy now"? I see no "buy now". At least not on the
page linked to by
> > Zed. Am I crazy,  or what?
>
> "Add to Cart"
Not that it matters now, (as mentioned, I bought the pdf from one of
the alternate links Zed provided) but for the record, this page:

http://safari.oreilly.com/0321483502

has no "Add to Cart", no "Buy now", no "Give us money
and we''ll let
you download the pdf immediately", or any other similarly named button
that I can see.

Maybe you have to have a Safari Max account to see it? Beats me.

Btw, the book looks great. Looking forward to making good use of it.

James

Good news: I have been told by our publisher that the purchase process has
now been simplified so that you no longer need to A) fill out a survey form
or B) fill out a shipping address. These were the two most annoying aspects
of the purchase process, so it should be smoother sailing now. If anyone
hasn''t bought the book yet but is planning to, please try out the
purchase
process now, and let me know whatever issues or annoyances you run into. You
can start at the link below (I''ve pasted this one before):

http://www.informit.com/title/0321483502

Matt

On 11/5/06, Michael Moen <mi-mongrel at moensolutions.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, James Hughes wrote:
> > I want the pdf, but I don''t want to have to get a full safari
> > subscription. I just want to pay the $14.99 and be on my way. Any
> > hints?
>
> http://www.informit.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=9780321483508&rl=1
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>
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I actually added it to my safari.informit bookshelp this morning.  It''s
part
of the shortcuts line.

Stuart

On 11/13/06, Matt Pelletier <eastmedianyc at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Good news: I have been told by our publisher that the purchase process has
> now been simplified so that you no longer need to A) fill out a survey form
> or B) fill out a shipping address. These were the two most annoying aspects
> of the purchase process, so it should be smoother sailing now. If anyone
> hasn''t bought the book yet but is planning to, please try out the
purchase
> process now, and let me know whatever issues or annoyances you run into.
You
> can start at the link below (I''ve pasted this one before):
>
> http://www.informit.com/title/0321483502
>
> Matt
>
> On 11/5/06, Michael Moen < mi-mongrel at moensolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, James Hughes wrote:
> > > I want the pdf, but I don''t want to have to get a full
safari
> > > subscription. I just want to pay the $14.99 and be on my way. Any
> > > hints?
> >
> >
http://www.informit.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=9780321483508&rl=1
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mongrel-users mailing list
> > Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>
>

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I just tried : couldn''t avoid the forms barrage.
Probably it is only in the process of being simplified at this point ...

Anyway, thanks for keeping us informed,
I''ll try again promised :)

Philippe.
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On 13 Nov 2006, at 19:46, Matt Pelletier wrote:
> Good news: I have been told by our publisher that the purchase  
> process has now been simplified so that you no longer need to A)  
> fill out a survey form or B) fill out a shipping address. These  
> were the two most annoying aspects of the purchase process, so it  
> should be smoother sailing now. If anyone hasn''t bought the book  
> yet but is planning to, please try out the purchase process now,  
> and let me know whatever issues or annoyances you run into. You can  
> start at the link below (I''ve pasted this one before):
>
> http://www.informit.com/title/0321483502
>
Just bought it, took all of two minutes. Looking forward to reading  
it now :)

Cheers,

Chris

<nitpick>The shop fonts are very small in Camino</nitpick> ...
sorry! :)



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On 11/13/06, philippe lachaise <philippe.lachaise at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I just tried : couldn''t avoid the forms barrage.
> Probably it is only in the process of being simplified at this point ...

Philippe,

Can you be specific about which forms you''re seeing? Are you entering
through the InformIT link? The more detail you can provide the better so we
can make sure we''re addressing the issues properly. Thanks!

Matt


Anyway, thanks for keeping us informed,
> I''ll try again promised :)
>
> Philippe.
>
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> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
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Following  http://www.informit.com/title/0321483502

brings me there :
http://www.informit.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0321483502&rl=1
>From where I can see no other option than "Add to Cart" (my cart
contains 3
copies by now)

"Proceed to Checkout" takes me to "Billing & Shipping
Address" (1/4)

Am I missing something ?

Regards,

    Philippe.
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