llvm dev - Jul 2020 - Why is there a llvm/apple-llvm-project-staging ?

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:21 PM Eric Christopher via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
> There's an email thread at this point :)
You mean http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2020-July/142951.html
? I wasn't sure that was directly related - since that thread seems to
be asking for permission/buy-in to /add/ a branch, it doesn't (based
on my reading at least) talk about any pre-existing branch, which is
what Roman seems to be asking about?

So I'm not sure if they're related or not.

- Dave
>
> -eric
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 4:01 AM Roman Lebedev via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at
lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> Some time ago, https://github.com/llvm/apple-llvm-project-staging
appeared.
>> I do not recall seeing any discussions about it (especially before the
>> fact) here.
>>
>> It is a standalone repository, not a fork, therefore github wrongfully
counts
>> everyones commits twice - once in the proper repo, and once in there.
>> That can not be worked around, as far as i understand.
>>
>> So, why is it there in the first place?
>> Why was there no discussion about it?
>> Why is it not in https://github.com/apple ?
>> Can it be moved in the right place?
>>
>> Roman.
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Yep. That thread. It got there eventually around this branch as well. It's
a... long thread at this point.

-eric

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:27 PM David Blaikie <dblaikie at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:21 PM Eric Christopher via llvm-dev
> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> >
> > There's an email thread at this point :)
>
> You mean http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2020-July/142951.html
> ? I wasn't sure that was directly related - since that thread seems to
> be asking for permission/buy-in to /add/ a branch, it doesn't (based
> on my reading at least) talk about any pre-existing branch, which is
> what Roman seems to be asking about?
>
> So I'm not sure if they're related or not.
>
> - Dave
>
> >
> > -eric
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 4:01 AM Roman Lebedev via llvm-dev <
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> Some time ago, https://github.com/llvm/apple-llvm-project-staging
> appeared.
> >> I do not recall seeing any discussions about it (especially before
the
> >> fact) here.
> >>
> >> It is a standalone repository, not a fork, therefore github
wrongfully
> counts
> >> everyones commits twice - once in the proper repo, and once in
there.
> >> That can not be worked around, as far as i understand.
> >>
> >> So, why is it there in the first place?
> >> Why was there no discussion about it?
> >> Why is it not in https://github.com/apple ?
> >> Can it be moved in the right place?
> >>
> >> Roman.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> LLVM Developers mailing list
> >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
> >> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > LLVM Developers mailing list
> > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
> > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
>
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On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:29 PM Eric Christopher <echristo at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Yep. That thread. It got there eventually around this branch as well.
It's a... long thread at this point.
*nod* I think I've read it all - and don't see mention of this
subproject/fork/thingy. (& that entire thread occurred after (June
29th) this email from Roman (June 21st) - and was seeking permission,
not asking about a pre-existing fork)). Chris proposed a possible fork
name ("I don’t have a opinion on this either way, but can git/GitHub
maintain forks within the same organization?  You could have
llvm/llvm-project and llvm/llvm-project-apple-staging or something
like that?") but it's not the one that's already there/Roman's
asking
about (almost the same, though): apple-llvm-project-staging.

So I'm still confused, at least.

Perhaps someone accidentally pushed this branch while trying to
prototype ideas before sending the proposal?

- Dave
>
> -eric
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:27 PM David Blaikie <dblaikie at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:21 PM Eric Christopher via llvm-dev
>> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > There's an email thread at this point :)
>>
>> You mean http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2020-July/142951.html
>> ? I wasn't sure that was directly related - since that thread seems
to
>> be asking for permission/buy-in to /add/ a branch, it doesn't
(based
>> on my reading at least) talk about any pre-existing branch, which is
>> what Roman seems to be asking about?
>>
>> So I'm not sure if they're related or not.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> >
>> > -eric
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 4:01 AM Roman Lebedev via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello.
>> >>
>> >> Some time ago,
https://github.com/llvm/apple-llvm-project-staging appeared.
>> >> I do not recall seeing any discussions about it (especially
before the
>> >> fact) here.
>> >>
>> >> It is a standalone repository, not a fork, therefore github
wrongfully counts
>> >> everyones commits twice - once in the proper repo, and once in
there.
>> >> That can not be worked around, as far as i understand.
>> >>
>> >> So, why is it there in the first place?
>> >> Why was there no discussion about it?
>> >> Why is it not in https://github.com/apple ?
>> >> Can it be moved in the right place?
>> >>
>> >> Roman.
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> LLVM Developers mailing list
>> >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
>> >> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > LLVM Developers mailing list
>> > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
>> > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev