Jon Chesterfield via llvm-dev
2020-Mar-03 14:04 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Cheaper indirect calls via trampolines
Taking the address of a function inhibits optimisations for that function. Essentially any ABI changes are unavailable if we can't adjust the call site to match. The case of interest here is when a given function is called directly and indirectly, and we don't want the latter to impose a cost on the former. One approach to avoid the ABI constraint cost is to extract/outline the body of an address taken function into a new function, then replace said body with a direct call to the new function. This leaves us with two functions that have the same semantic effect: - One has its address taken, and may have external visibility. Just calls the other. - One does not have its address taken and has internal visibility Direct call sites to the outer wrapper/trampoline can be optimised to direct calls to the new internal function, leaving no net change other than enabling other optimisations. Uses of the address of the symbol are unchanged as the original function is still present. Indirect call sites now go through this trampoline to share the code. There's the runtime cost of undoing whatever ABI optimisations we later chose to make to the internal function, e.g. some argument shuffling/discarding, then either a tail call or a normal call if the return value also needs to adjustment. That is, the proposed transform has made indirect calls slightly slower (unless we inline the new function back in to make a clone, in which case it's made code size bigger) in exchange for re-enabling all the optimisations that we currently lose from the address of. The same sort of reasoning applies if the function is external and must expose an ABI appropriate entry point for other translation units, but we'd like to use a faster calling convention internally. If at the end of a pipeline we didn't actually want to change the function after all, we should be able to fold the two back together. I think that's plausibly a win. Taking the address of a function no longer thwarts other optimisations, in exchange for making the indirectly called function slightly slower. Thoughts? Jon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20200303/4ac5e0fb/attachment.html>
Michael Kruse via llvm-dev
2020-Mar-03 17:16 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Cheaper indirect calls via trampolines
I associate the word "trampoline" with gcc's technique writing a function wrapper for nested function to the stack: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gccint/Trampolines.html IIUC, you are not proposing writing the the outer wrapper to the stack. Maybe we use a different term. @jdoerfert already had thought about this technique for interprocedural optimizations, in particular argument promotion. Michael Am Di., 3. März 2020 um 08:05 Uhr schrieb Jon Chesterfield via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>:> > Taking the address of a function inhibits optimisations for that function. Essentially any ABI changes are unavailable if we can't adjust the call site to match. The case of interest here is when a given function is called directly and indirectly, and we don't want the latter to impose a cost on the former. > > One approach to avoid the ABI constraint cost is to extract/outline the body of an address taken function into a new function, then replace said body with a direct call to the new function. This leaves us with two functions that have the same semantic effect: > - One has its address taken, and may have external visibility. Just calls the other. > - One does not have its address taken and has internal visibility > > Direct call sites to the outer wrapper/trampoline can be optimised to direct calls to the new internal function, leaving no net change other than enabling other optimisations. Uses of the address of the symbol are unchanged as the original function is still present. > > Indirect call sites now go through this trampoline to share the code. There's the runtime cost of undoing whatever ABI optimisations we later chose to make to the internal function, e.g. some argument shuffling/discarding, then either a tail call or a normal call if the return value also needs to adjustment. > > That is, the proposed transform has made indirect calls slightly slower (unless we inline the new function back in to make a clone, in which case it's made code size bigger) in exchange for re-enabling all the optimisations that we currently lose from the address of. The same sort of reasoning applies if the function is external and must expose an ABI appropriate entry point for other translation units, but we'd like to use a faster calling convention internally. > > If at the end of a pipeline we didn't actually want to change the function after all, we should be able to fold the two back together. > > I think that's plausibly a win. Taking the address of a function no longer thwarts other optimisations, in exchange for making the indirectly called function slightly slower. Thoughts? > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
Philip Reames via llvm-dev
2020-Mar-03 20:06 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Cheaper indirect calls via trampolines
Trampoline is a much more generic term than that particular implementation technique, JFYI. Philip On 3/3/20 9:16 AM, Michael Kruse via llvm-dev wrote:> I associate the word "trampoline" with gcc's technique writing a > function wrapper for nested function to the stack: > https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gccint/Trampolines.html > IIUC, you are not proposing writing the the outer wrapper to the > stack. Maybe we use a different term. > > @jdoerfert already had thought about this technique for > interprocedural optimizations, in particular argument promotion. > > Michael > > > Am Di., 3. März 2020 um 08:05 Uhr schrieb Jon Chesterfield via > llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>: >> Taking the address of a function inhibits optimisations for that function. Essentially any ABI changes are unavailable if we can't adjust the call site to match. The case of interest here is when a given function is called directly and indirectly, and we don't want the latter to impose a cost on the former. >> >> One approach to avoid the ABI constraint cost is to extract/outline the body of an address taken function into a new function, then replace said body with a direct call to the new function. This leaves us with two functions that have the same semantic effect: >> - One has its address taken, and may have external visibility. Just calls the other. >> - One does not have its address taken and has internal visibility >> >> Direct call sites to the outer wrapper/trampoline can be optimised to direct calls to the new internal function, leaving no net change other than enabling other optimisations. Uses of the address of the symbol are unchanged as the original function is still present. >> >> Indirect call sites now go through this trampoline to share the code. There's the runtime cost of undoing whatever ABI optimisations we later chose to make to the internal function, e.g. some argument shuffling/discarding, then either a tail call or a normal call if the return value also needs to adjustment. >> >> That is, the proposed transform has made indirect calls slightly slower (unless we inline the new function back in to make a clone, in which case it's made code size bigger) in exchange for re-enabling all the optimisations that we currently lose from the address of. The same sort of reasoning applies if the function is external and must expose an ABI appropriate entry point for other translation units, but we'd like to use a faster calling convention internally. >> >> If at the end of a pipeline we didn't actually want to change the function after all, we should be able to fold the two back together. >> >> I think that's plausibly a win. Taking the address of a function no longer thwarts other optimisations, in exchange for making the indirectly called function slightly slower. Thoughts? >> >> Jon >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
Doerfert, Johannes via llvm-dev
2020-Mar-03 20:14 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Cheaper indirect calls via trampolines
Hi Jon, did you see https://reviews.llvm.org/D63312 back in the day? I want to revive that one eventually. The idea is similar to your proposal but it's not focused on address taken function per se, though it covers that use case too. Cheers, Johannes ________________________________________ From: Michael Kruse <llvmdev at meinersbur.de> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:16 To: Jon Chesterfield Cc: llvm-dev; Doerfert, Johannes Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Cheaper indirect calls via trampolines I associate the word "trampoline" with gcc's technique writing a function wrapper for nested function to the stack: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gccint/Trampolines.html IIUC, you are not proposing writing the the outer wrapper to the stack. Maybe we use a different term. @jdoerfert already had thought about this technique for interprocedural optimizations, in particular argument promotion. Michael Am Di., 3. März 2020 um 08:05 Uhr schrieb Jon Chesterfield via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>:> > Taking the address of a function inhibits optimisations for that function. Essentially any ABI changes are unavailable if we can't adjust the call site to match. The case of interest here is when a given function is called directly and indirectly, and we don't want the latter to impose a cost on the former. > > One approach to avoid the ABI constraint cost is to extract/outline the body of an address taken function into a new function, then replace said body with a direct call to the new function. This leaves us with two functions that have the same semantic effect: > - One has its address taken, and may have external visibility. Just calls the other. > - One does not have its address taken and has internal visibility > > Direct call sites to the outer wrapper/trampoline can be optimised to direct calls to the new internal function, leaving no net change other than enabling other optimisations. Uses of the address of the symbol are unchanged as the original function is still present. > > Indirect call sites now go through this trampoline to share the code. There's the runtime cost of undoing whatever ABI optimisations we later chose to make to the internal function, e.g. some argument shuffling/discarding, then either a tail call or a normal call if the return value also needs to adjustment. > > That is, the proposed transform has made indirect calls slightly slower (unless we inline the new function back in to make a clone, in which case it's made code size bigger) in exchange for re-enabling all the optimisations that we currently lose from the address of. The same sort of reasoning applies if the function is external and must expose an ABI appropriate entry point for other translation units, but we'd like to use a faster calling convention internally. > > If at the end of a pipeline we didn't actually want to change the function after all, we should be able to fold the two back together. > > I think that's plausibly a win. Taking the address of a function no longer thwarts other optimisations, in exchange for making the indirectly called function slightly slower. Thoughts? > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
Reid Kleckner via llvm-dev
2020-Mar-04 23:23 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Cheaper indirect calls via trampolines
Yes, this is a great idea. It was something that occurred to us as well when we were adding support for `inalloca` to LLVM. The attribute was added for MSVC compatibility, and is bad for analysis and IPO. So, it would be great if globalopt or some other early pass came along and fixed up direct calls so they avoid this overhead when possible. On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 6:05 AM Jon Chesterfield via llvm-dev < llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> Taking the address of a function inhibits optimisations for that function. > Essentially any ABI changes are unavailable if we can't adjust the call > site to match. The case of interest here is when a given function is called > directly and indirectly, and we don't want the latter to impose a cost on > the former. > > One approach to avoid the ABI constraint cost is to extract/outline the > body of an address taken function into a new function, then replace said > body with a direct call to the new function. This leaves us with two > functions that have the same semantic effect: > - One has its address taken, and may have external visibility. Just calls > the other. > - One does not have its address taken and has internal visibility > > Direct call sites to the outer wrapper/trampoline can be optimised to > direct calls to the new internal function, leaving no net change other than > enabling other optimisations. Uses of the address of the symbol are > unchanged as the original function is still present. > > Indirect call sites now go through this trampoline to share the code. > There's the runtime cost of undoing whatever ABI optimisations we later > chose to make to the internal function, e.g. some argument > shuffling/discarding, then either a tail call or a normal call if the > return value also needs to adjustment. > > That is, the proposed transform has made indirect calls slightly slower > (unless we inline the new function back in to make a clone, in which case > it's made code size bigger) in exchange for re-enabling all the > optimisations that we currently lose from the address of. The same sort of > reasoning applies if the function is external and must expose an ABI > appropriate entry point for other translation units, but we'd like to use a > faster calling convention internally. > > If at the end of a pipeline we didn't actually want to change the function > after all, we should be able to fold the two back together. > > I think that's plausibly a win. Taking the address of a function no longer > thwarts other optimisations, in exchange for making the indirectly called > function slightly slower. Thoughts? > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20200304/585eea3b/attachment.html>
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