llvm dev - Oct 2011 - [LLVMdev] ARM Qualification

On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:43 PM, David A. Greene wrote:
> Bill Wendling <wendling at apple.com> writes:
> 
>> Improving the test suite is always welcome.
> 
> Do we have an idea of what sorts of improvements we'd like?  Any codes
> that we want to add, for example?  What would be useful for ARM?
> 
>> In addition, we send out pre-release tarballs and have people in the
>> community build and test their programs with it. This is not a perfect
>> system, but it's one which works for us given the number of testers
>> available, the amount of time and resources they have, and whatever
>> fixes need to be merged into the release.
>> 
>> ARM qualification is a bit trickier, because of the different specific
>> chips out there, different OSes, and having to verify ARM, Thumb1, and
>> Thumb2 for the same configurations. And the tests tend to run a bit
>> slower than, say, an x86 chip. So it's mostly a matter of time and
>> resources. Unless we can get people who are willing to perform these
>> tests, we won't be able to release ARM as an official supported
>> platform.
> 
> Resources isn't the only problem.  I've asked several times about
adding
> my personal machines to the testing pool but I never get a reply.  So
> there they sit idle every day, processing the occasional e-mail when
> they could be chewing LLVM tests.
> 
I'm pretty sure this has been answered:
http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-September/034555.html

But now the master has moved (this week), so its no longer osuosl.

However, I do agree that it should be put into an appropriate place on the
website (if its there, I can't easily find it).

-Tanya
> It is in fact highly in my own interest to get them running.  I just
> need to be pointed to the document that tells me what the buildbot
> master expects to see and defines a procedure for adding them as slaves.
> 
> One thing that could help these situations is virtualization.
> 
> I've toyed with the idea of setting up various virtual machines to test
> various OS/architecture combinations.  With QEMU I can imagine testing
> various ISAs as well.
> 
> If there are any ARM full-system simulators we could use those as well.
> I'd be happy to run them.
> 
>                              -Dave
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Tanya Lattner <lattner at apple.com> writes:
>> Resources isn't the only problem.  I've asked several times
about adding
>> my personal machines to the testing pool but I never get a reply.  So
>> there they sit idle every day, processing the occasional e-mail when
>> they could be chewing LLVM tests.
>> 
>
> I'm pretty sure this has been answered:
> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-September/034555.html
Oh!  I missed that one.  Thanks for the pointer!
> But now the master has moved (this week), so its no longer osuosl.
Right.  I'll try to figure that bit out.  :)
> However, I do agree that it should be put into an appropriate place on
> the website (if its there, I can't easily find it).
Who owns the website?  If I want to make such changes, who do I go
through?

                             -Dave

On Oct 14, 2011, at 12:37 PM, David A. Greene wrote:
> Tanya Lattner <lattner at apple.com> writes:
> 
>>> Resources isn't the only problem.  I've asked several times
about adding
>>> my personal machines to the testing pool but I never get a reply. 
So
>>> there they sit idle every day, processing the occasional e-mail
when
>>> they could be chewing LLVM tests.
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure this has been answered:
>> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-September/034555.html
> 
> Oh!  I missed that one.  Thanks for the pointer!
> 
>> But now the master has moved (this week), so its no longer osuosl.
> 
> Right.  I'll try to figure that bit out.  :)
> 
>> However, I do agree that it should be put into an appropriate place on
>> the website (if its there, I can't easily find it).
> 
> Who owns the website?  If I want to make such changes, who do I go
> through?
I'm not sure if anyone really owns it, but there are only a few with access
to the actual web server. However, the website is in svn (www repo). If its a
small fix (typo, etc), just check in and people post commit review. Anything
larger (new page, restructuring, etc), its best to send a patch just to get a
few eyes on it.

Thanks,
Tanya