A bit off-topic question: has anyone any experiences with the relaying service that live365.com has? what kind of stream(s) do they relay? what is the protocol they use? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Jan Hübener wrote:> you're from tilos.hu, right ?yes, how did you know?> have you tried fdcservers.net ?nope> is the 1.3 TB offer @ 99$ or any of theirs useful for a radio ?ound way way cool... --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Answer to your question: Live365 is strictly mp3 Much more than you wanted to know: I started using Live365 about a zillion years ago and of course it was wonderful "back in the good ole daze". After you signed up with them, you could park 365 meg of mp3s (up to 56k) and/or set up a relay (using either icecast or shoutcast) all for free. (Dirty little secret was at first, although you could only park mp3s encoded at 56k or lower, their relay server would gleefully relay streams up to 128kbs) About the only downside at that point was that their server wouldn't pass ID3 data so listeners had to go to the Live365 site to see song info and there was no info for relays. Not a problem, since Oddsock and others made programs available to easily display tunes on your own website. Eventually Live365 figured out it would be neccesary to make some money to cover the bandwidth they were giving away, so they began dropping commercials in at random during your stream. Then they started charging for expanded " directory listings. Then they started charging for virtually all services. - They were pretty nice, and let their "founding" broadcasters get an almost free ride, but began charging a $5 / month "administration" fee to offset CARP payments to the RIAA. Mediacast1.com and StreamGuys began offering reasonably priced alternate bandwidth during this time and I began losing interest in Live365. Recently they've blocked direct access to the streams - listeners have to "log-in" to hear a stream. I'm not going to talk trash about Live365 - they made it possible for a lot of folks to get involved with internet radio, but I fear that they cruised with no business plan for too long and are now in kind of a pickle trying to put the place on a paying basis. 2/18/03 2:45:32 PM, Akos Maroy <darkeye@tyrell.hu> wrote:>A bit off-topic question: has anyone any experiences with the relaying >service that live365.com has? what kind of stream(s) do they relay? what >is the protocol they use?><p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
you're from tilos.hu, right ? have you tried fdcservers.net ? is the 1.3 TB offer @ 99$ or any of theirs useful for a radio ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Akos Maroy" <darkeye@tyrell.hu> To: <icecast@xiph.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:45 AM Subject: [icecast] off: live365 relay <p>> A bit off-topic question: has anyone any experiences with the relaying> service that live365.com has? what kind of stream(s) do they relay? what > is the protocol they use? > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to'icecast-request@xiph.org'> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. ><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Akos Maroy
2004-Aug-06 14:23 UTC
[icecast] having an international relay (was off: live365 relay)
geezer wrote:> payments to the RIAA. Mediacast1.com and StreamGuys began offering > reasonably priced alternate bandwidth during this time and I began > losing interest in Live365.thanks for the detailed info about live365. my general problem is, that I need a relay server outside of Hungary, for both streaming and downloading stream archives. (I'm with Tilos Radio, tilos.hu , as it has been menioned earlier.) currently we have about 1.5TB per month traffic, with a peak of about 25Mbit/sec. what viable cheap solutions exist for this problem? is there maybe a relay network of some sort? maybe p2p like? to make sure that if someone and his neighbor listnes to a stream, they don't stream twice the same thing from over the big water? for example, live365 with all their mentioned problem, did they set up a relay network? or mediacast1.net? or is it just that they have all their servers in one place and hope for the best? of course, all these are infrastructural questions, not closely related to icecast development. but one has to run the software somehow :) <p>Akos --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.