Icecast - Aug 2004 - Updating show titles (was Re: a new directory service)

If the client is using freeamp, they can see the song titles.  (They are
passed along by the server.)  Winamp and XMMS do not seem to see the meta
data from the server.


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Byron L. Hicks
Network Engineer
NMSU ICT

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From: "Akos Maroy" <darkeye@tyrell.hu>
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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Updating show titles (was Re: [icecast] a new directory
service)
> Jack Moffitt wrote:
>
> > The name of the stream is unchanging, just as it's URL should be. 
Just
> > come up with a name that's not DJ specific.  Certainly the names
of
> > radio stations don't change.
>
>
> They don't, but this could be a big added service, to let the client
> know what he is listening to on the given station. After all, if he
> tuned in to the station, he know what station he's got. At that point,
> it's more interesting for him to know what program is on.
>
>
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Byron L. Hicks wrote:
> If the client is using freeamp, they can see the song titles.  (They are
> passed along by the server.)  Winamp and XMMS do not seem to see the meta
> data from the server.
If you're streaming a live broadcast, you don't have song titles, as the
mp3 or ogg stream is generated real time from a sound card input. There 
are two ways of letting the client know what he's listening to:

1. put meta-data into the mp3/ogg stream itself
2. let icecast send the metadata to the client or some directory service

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First, it's wrong to fix a problem with a client on the server end.  We
shouldn't dictate the behavior of the directory on how clients display
data.
> > If the client is using freeamp, they can see the song titles.  (They
are
> > passed along by the server.)  Winamp and XMMS do not seem to see the
meta
> > data from the server.
> 
> If you're streaming a live broadcast, you don't have song titles,
as the
> mp3 or ogg stream is generated real time from a sound card input. There 
> are two ways of letting the client know what he's listening to:
> 
> 1. put meta-data into the mp3/ogg stream itself
Exactly.  There will be a metadata stream soon that will be generated by
ices.  It will override the file comments if there are any.  So you will
be able to change arbitrary pieces of data as you see fit even during a
live broadcast.

This will take a bit to get in place, but I think that Oddsock solved
this in the meantime by just ending a chain-link on a stream boundary.

jack.

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