Gluster users - Mar 2010 - Setup for production - which one would you choose?

Hi all,

I just made some tests on two old machines using Ubuntu 10.4 (server
i386) with fuse-2.7.4glfs11 and glusterfs-3.0.3. At a first glance it
seems to be OK. 
The next step is deploying a system which could be used for
production. What would you suggest? Ubuntu 10.4 (server 64bit) is my
first choice because of LTS. Whatsoever, I think it is more the version
of glusterfs which makes it stable or not, isn't it?
In the end I'd like to have a distributed & replicated storage which
provides data for a bunch of (virtualized) LAMPS.

TIA for your recommendations!

Regards,

Oliver Hoffmann

lol, and we have nothing to do with the cathedral or Dom Koelsch either.
But having DomUs on glusterfs would be nice though, if possible.

Greetings,

Oliver
> off topic .. 
> 
> Just happened to look at your website, in the hope it had something
> to do with virtualization ( DomU :-) ). Like the way the Management
> and Strategy tab is done :-) .. pretty creative ( a little slow to
> pop up though .. ).
> 
> Regards,
> Tejas.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Oliver Hoffmann" <oh at dom.de>
> To: gluster-users at gluster.org
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 11:29:25 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata,
> Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: [Gluster-users] Setup for production -
> which one would you choose?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just made some tests on two old machines using Ubuntu 10.4 (server
> i386) with fuse-2.7.4glfs11 and glusterfs-3.0.3. At a first glance it
> seems to be OK. 
> The next step is deploying a system which could be used for
> production. What would you suggest? Ubuntu 10.4 (server 64bit) is my
> first choice because of LTS. Whatsoever, I think it is more the
> version of glusterfs which makes it stable or not, isn't it?
> In the end I'd like to have a distributed & replicated storage
which
> provides data for a bunch of (virtualized) LAMPS.
> 
> TIA for your recommendations!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Oliver Hoffmann
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Gluster-users at gluster.org
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>

On 03/22/2010 06:59 PM, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
> The next step is deploying a system which could be used for
> production. What would you suggest? Ubuntu 10.4 (server 64bit) is my
> first choice because of LTS. Whatsoever, I think it is more the version
> of glusterfs which makes it stable or not, isn't it?
> In the end I'd like to have a distributed&  replicated storage
which
> provides data for a bunch of (virtualized) LAMPS.
 From what i understand, Gluster is developed and tested internally on 
CentOS, so that may be a consideration as well.


-- 
Daniel Maher <dma+gluster AT witbe DOT net>

On 22/03/2010 17:59, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just made some tests on two old machines using Ubuntu 10.4 (server
> i386) with fuse-2.7.4glfs11 and glusterfs-3.0.3. At a first glance it
> seems to be OK.
> The next step is deploying a system which could be used for
> production. What would you suggest? Ubuntu 10.4 (server 64bit) is my
> first choice because of LTS. Whatsoever, I think it is more the version
> of glusterfs which makes it stable or not, isn't it?
> In the end I'd like to have a distributed&  replicated storage
which
> provides data for a bunch of (virtualized) LAMPS.
>
> TIA for your recommendations!
>    
I'm intrigued.  I had not realised that there were other options than 
Gentoo for use on a server?!  (Bang up to date, flexible configuration 
and strong support of various virtualisation solutions.  Slight negative 
in update speeds, but can be mitigated by using a binary package cache)

Will try out those new fangled options you suggested above, but in the 
meantime have a look at Gentoo (at least if you are fairly confident 
with your linux skills).  Big plug for linux-vservers also, especially 
in combination with some custom server profiles to define required 
software versions and options

Good luck

Ed W

It is hard to fully understand what you just wrote.  If you are
suggesting that someone else's personal preferences (or company
objectives) are incorrect or misguided simply because they don't match
your own I'm trying to understand how your last post pertains to the
user forum for Gluster?  There are plenty of reasons to prefer packages
over source installations but that academic conversation is also not
appropriate for this list.

Cheers,
Benjamin



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[mailto:gluster-users-bounces at gluster.org] On Behalf Of Stephan von
Krawczynski
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:37 PM
To: Ian Rogers
Cc: gluster-users at gluster.org
Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] Setup for production - which one would you
choose?

Ok, guys, honestly: it is allowed to learn (RMS fought for your right to
do so)
:-)
Really rarely in the open source universe you will find a piece of
software
that is as easy to compile and run as glusterfs. All you have to know
yourself
is how to use tar. Then enter the source directory and do "./configure ;
make ;
make install" What exactly is difficult to do? Why would you install
_some_
rpm that is outdated anyways (be it 2.0.9 or 3.0.2)?
Please don't tell you configure and drive LAMP but can't build
glusterfs.
The docs for 5 apache config options are longer than the whole
glusterfs-source...

--
Regards,
Stephan

PS: yes, I know it's the user-list. 



On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:14:32 +0000
Ian Rogers <ian.rogers at contactclean.com> wrote:
> 
> I've just done part one of a writeup of my EC2 gluster LAMP
installation 
> at 
>
http://www.sirgroane.net/2010/03/distributed-file-system-on-amazon-ec2/
> - may or may not be useful to you :-)
> 
> Ian
> 
> On 24/03/2010 17:09, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
> > Yes, that's an idea. Thanx. That will be important for all the
debian
> > clients, mostly lenny.
> >
> > I think waiting and testing a month is quite ok though.
> >
> >    
> >> To have glusterfs 3.0.3 on ubuntu 9.10 you can also just install
the
> >> debian package for gluster 3.0.3 with dpkg -i.
> >>
> >> http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/glusterfs
> >>
> >> But then 10.04 is only a month away, so depends how much of a rush
> >> your in!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wednesday 24 Mar 2010 16:45:40 Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
> >>      
> >>> Haha, there are loads of Linux distributions out there and
even
> >>> strange OSes like *BSD or windooze or what's it called?
;-)
> >>>
> >>> I tried out Gentoo a while ago but I droped it because all the
> >>> compiling took way too long. The big plus here is the big
minus on
> >>> debian like systems. The current Ubuntu 9.10 for example has
> >>> glusterfs 2.0.9, period. If you want to have 3.0.2 then you
have
to
> >>> wait for Ubuntu 10.04 or you compile it.
> >>> But now that we have (almost) 10.04 with 3.0.2 I'll take
this way.
> >>> Having such a system up and running on recent hardware is a
matter
> >>> of maybe 10 or 20 minutes.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>        
> >>>> On 22/03/2010 17:59, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
> >>>>          
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just made some tests on two old machines using
Ubuntu 10.4
> >>>>> (server i386) with fuse-2.7.4glfs11 and
glusterfs-3.0.3. At a
> >>>>> first glance it seems to be OK.
> >>>>> The next step is deploying a system which could be
used for
> >>>>> production. What would you suggest? Ubuntu 10.4
(server 64bit)
> >>>>> is my first choice because of LTS. Whatsoever, I think
it is
> >>>>> more the version of glusterfs which makes it stable or
not,
> >>>>> isn't it? In the end I'd like to have a
distributed&
> >>>>> replicated storage which provides data for a bunch of
> >>>>> (virtualized) LAMPS.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> TIA for your recommendations!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>            
> >>>> I'm intrigued.  I had not realised that there were
other options
> >>>> than Gentoo for use on a server?!  (Bang up to date,
flexible
> >>>> configuration and strong support of various virtualisation
> >>>> solutions.  Slight negative in update speeds, but can be
> >>>> mitigated by using a binary package cache)
> >>>>
> >>>> Will try out those new fangled options you suggested
above, but
in
> >>>> the meantime have a look at Gentoo (at least if you are
fairly
> >>>> confident with your linux skills).  Big plug for
linux-vservers
> >>>> also, especially in combination with some custom server
profiles
> >>>> to define required software versions and options
> >>>>
> >>>> Good luck
> >>>>
> >>>> Ed W
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Gluster-users mailing list
> >>>> Gluster-users at gluster.org
> >>>> http://gluster.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>        
> >>      
> >
> >
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Ian,

Thanks a lot for the article. Appreciate it. Gluster needs such contributions
for larger adoption.

I would encourage and request everyone to write about their experiences, use
cases, applications using
Gluster etc. so others who are using the same applications will be encouraged to
try out Gluster.

Regards,
Tejas.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Rogers" <ian.rogers at contactclean.com>
To: gluster-users at gluster.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:44:32 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai,
New Delhi
Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] Setup for production - which one would you choose?


I've just done part one of a writeup of my EC2 gluster LAMP installation 
at 
http://www.sirgroane.net/2010/03/distributed-file-system-on-amazon-ec2/ 
- may or may not be useful to you :-)

Ian

On 24/03/2010 17:09, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
> Yes, that's an idea. Thanx. That will be important for all the debian
> clients, mostly lenny.
>
> I think waiting and testing a month is quite ok though.
>
>    
>> To have glusterfs 3.0.3 on ubuntu 9.10 you can also just install the
>> debian package for gluster 3.0.3 with dpkg -i.
>>
>> http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/glusterfs
>>
>> But then 10.04 is only a month away, so depends how much of a rush
>> your in!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday 24 Mar 2010 16:45:40 Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
>>      
>>> Haha, there are loads of Linux distributions out there and even
>>> strange OSes like *BSD or windooze or what's it called? ;-)
>>>
>>> I tried out Gentoo a while ago but I droped it because all the
>>> compiling took way too long. The big plus here is the big minus on
>>> debian like systems. The current Ubuntu 9.10 for example has
>>> glusterfs 2.0.9, period. If you want to have 3.0.2 then you have to
>>> wait for Ubuntu 10.04 or you compile it.
>>> But now that we have (almost) 10.04 with 3.0.2 I'll take this
way.
>>> Having such a system up and running on recent hardware is a matter
>>> of maybe 10 or 20 minutes.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> On 22/03/2010 17:59, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just made some tests on two old machines using Ubuntu
10.4
>>>>> (server i386) with fuse-2.7.4glfs11 and glusterfs-3.0.3. At
a
>>>>> first glance it seems to be OK.
>>>>> The next step is deploying a system which could be used for
>>>>> production. What would you suggest? Ubuntu 10.4 (server
64bit)
>>>>> is my first choice because of LTS. Whatsoever, I think it
is
>>>>> more the version of glusterfs which makes it stable or not,
>>>>> isn't it? In the end I'd like to have a
distributed&
>>>>> replicated storage which provides data for a bunch of
>>>>> (virtualized) LAMPS.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA for your recommendations!
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> I'm intrigued.  I had not realised that there were other
options
>>>> than Gentoo for use on a server?!  (Bang up to date, flexible
>>>> configuration and strong support of various virtualisation
>>>> solutions.  Slight negative in update speeds, but can be
>>>> mitigated by using a binary package cache)
>>>>
>>>> Will try out those new fangled options you suggested above, but
in
>>>> the meantime have a look at Gentoo (at least if you are fairly
>>>> confident with your linux skills).  Big plug for linux-vservers
>>>> also, especially in combination with some custom server
profiles
>>>> to define required software versions and options
>>>>
>>>> Good luck
>>>>
>>>> Ed W
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Gluster-users mailing list
>>>> Gluster-users at gluster.org
>>>> http://gluster.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>        
>>      
>
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