freedesktop - Jul 2004 - [fdo] [daniel@freedesktop.org: Timeline, and slippage]

See attached for new platform timeline; please include platform@fd.o on
all proposals/followups/flames/whatever.

Oh, and for note's sake, Chris Lee is the other release team member at
the moment.

----- Forwarded message from Daniel Stone <daniel@freedesktop.org> -----

Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:40:19 +1000
From: Daniel Stone <daniel@freedesktop.org>
To: platform@freedesktop.org
Message-ID: <20040730154019.GN25118@fooishbar.org>
Subject: Timeline, and slippage
List-Id: "Discussion of the freedesktop.org Platform"
	<platform.freedesktop.org>

Hi,
Sorry again about the slippage. Work has been pretty crazy.

So, for the freedesktop.org Platform v1.0, the date of July 31st has
slipped to accommodate several factors: post-OLS discussion, the new
standardisation effort that has sprung up that looks like massively
paralleling the platform, and more.

The mechanism the platform will follow pretty closely parallels GNOME:
new modules (and every module is new for the first release) must be
proposed on the mailing list, and consensus reached on its inclusion or
otherwise. Modules which were included in the release immediately before
the one being discussed need not be proposed again.

I hereby announce the new dates for fd.o's 1.0 Platform release:
Aug 8th: Last date for module proposals
Aug 15th: All decisions to be made on modules - preferably by consensus,
          but with an executive decision from the release team if it
	  comes to that (hopefully based more on consensus than merit)
Tue 31st Aug: Release of freedesktop.org Platform 1.0
[...]
Mon 28th Feb: Release of freedesktop.org Platform 1.1

Use the time in between the 8th/15th and 31st to check it works in as
many settings as possible, and attempt to extract a newish version, so
we can just hand out a single tarball for that, not tarball+diffs
(yuck).

:) d, Release Team member

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Daniel Stone                                           
<daniel@freedesktop.org>
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On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 12:19, Daniel Stone wrote:
> So, for the freedesktop.org Platform v1.0, the date of July 31st has
> slipped to accommodate several factors: post-OLS discussion, the new
> standardisation effort that has sprung up that looks like massively
> paralleling the platform, and more.
To clarify, the "standarization process" referred to here is a
proposal
to have "specifications releases" every 6 months to force
us to actually finish and publish the specifications that are
done  (XDG basedir specification, desktop file specification, 
startup notification, and so forth.)

While it was initially proposed that specifications would be part of the
platform release, I think this is a bad idea for a number of reasons:

 - A specification is about multiple applications inter-operating;
   so the criteria for compatibility and being "done" are very
different
   than for a library.

 - The end-product is different - the platform release produces a set
   of tarballs, the specification release produces a list of
   specification.

 - The platform release is going to be enough work without throwing
   in a bunch of unrelated tasks that don't *have* to be part of the
   platform release.

So I don't see any duplication, much less massive duplication between
the specification and platform releases. They will be coordinated
as appropriate, they don't need to be the same.

Regards,
					Owen

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