Ext3 users - Dec 2001 - Visible /.journal

Hello

On root Partition is .journal visible . On all other 
Partitions is invisible. At which way I can move it manually to a 
hiden inode?

I have delete with 
chattr -i /.journal
rm -f /.journal

and installed ext3 with
tune2fs -j /dev/hdb1

And /.journal is again visible!

-- 
MfG / With best Regards
Rusmir Duško
Registered Linux user: #130654 http://counter.li.org

On Dec 27, 2001  21:13 +0100, Du¹ko Rusmir wrote:
> On root Partition is .journal visible. On all other Partitions is
invisible.
Why does this matter?
> At which way I can move it manually to a hidden inode?
You need to do it with root unmounted.
> I have delete with 
> chattr -i /.journal
> rm -f /.journal
Don't do that.  Don't you think that the journal is set immutable for a
reason?

Use "tune2fs -O ^has_journal <dev>" instead, on the _unmounted_
root
filesystem, then "tune2fs -j <dev>" on the _unmounted_ root
partition.

You need to boot from another partition or from recovery media which has
up-to-date e2fsprogs installed to do this.
 
Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/

On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 09:13:03PM +0100, Du?ko Rusmir
wrote:
> 
> On root Partition is .journal visible . On all other 
> Partitions is invisible. At which way I can move it manually to a 
> hiden inode?
> 
Well, if you don't mind being a guinea pig, and don't mind downloading
a source tarball and compiling it, the easist/simplist way to do this
is to do this is to install the latest WIP development snapshot of
e2fsprogs (1.26-WIP-24-Dec-2001), which can be found at:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs-1.26-WIP-1224.tar.gz

Then reboot; as part of the boot-time e2fsck check, the .journal file
will be automatically moved to a hidden inode.  This will work even if
the system is cleanly shutdown --- moving the .journal file happens
*after* the journal file is replayed (if necessary), and *before* the
e2fsck checks to see if the filesystem is clean.

The idea is that with the 1.26 release (which should happen soon, once
I'm convinced that the 1.26-WIP release is BugFree(tm)), visible
.journal file will automatically get moved to be a hidden inode, to
avoid problems with clueless system adminsitrators attempting to
remove the file while the filesystem is mounted as ext3 (and not using
the tune2fs program), clueless backup programs attempting to back up
the .journal file, etc.

						- Ted