>Le dimanche 27 septembre 2020 ? 16:30 +0200, Olivier Cailloux a ?crit: >> Dear list, >> >> I am looking for providers of free e-mail addresses known to run >> Dovecot (or a variant thereof) for IMAP access. I need only a few MB >> storage space and no particular features beyond SMTP and IMAP. >> >> The reason I ask is that Dovecot is known to implement the IMAP spec >> quite respectfully, and I am writing a software which uses IMAP >> search >> (so I would suggest my users to register an e-mail to a provider >> implementing correctly the IMAP Search specifications, to reduce the >> probability of bugs). (More details here: >> https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1821627 >> .) >> > > > >These private offers are very kind, but my question was more about >finding a provider who offers this access as a normal service, not as >some special favor to me. That?s because I want to recommend this >provider to the users of a software I am developing. And I do not >expect my users will agree to pay some fee (even a low fee) to register There is no such thing as free. If you do not pay anything, you know you are the product. >for an e-mail address just to use my software, so I?d recommend only a >provider who gives starter plans for free. (Of course these users in >turn would perhaps then upgrade their plan if they want to.) I don't think providers would be very willing (understatement) to install your software on their platform that services their other clients. I assume this is server side, since you enquire about dovecot. >So far I didn?t find a service provider providing free e-mail accounts >(similar to GMail, Yahoo, ?) and using Dovecot, which I find very >surprising, as I thought some of these big names, or at least some >smaller ones that I do not know, would use Dovecot. > T-mobile uses dovecot, find t-mobile users ;)
Le jeudi 08 octobre 2020 ? 21:41 +0200, Marc Roos a ?crit :> There is no such thing as free. If you do not pay anything, you know > you are the product.I do not wish to debate here about whether anything is really free in this world and what this would mean exactly, but I expect people understand what I mean in this context when I refer to a ?free e-mail account?. Similarly, if you mean that it is a bad idea on my part to suggest to my users to open a free e-mail account, well, you may be right, but I currently don?t think so, and what I know for sure is that this is a long and complicated debate that I?d rather not have here and now.> >for an e-mail address just to use my software, so I?d recommend > only > a > >provider who gives starter plans for free. (Of course these users > in > >turn would perhaps then upgrade their plan if they want to.) > > I don't think providers would be very willing (understatement) to > install > your software on their platform that services their other clients. > I assume this is server side, since you enquire about dovecot.My software acts as an IMAP client. I do not expect providers to install anything for me, I just want to find a provider that uses dovecot and offers e-mail accounts for free. For example, one answer to my question would be: ?GMail offers e-mail accounts for free and uses dovecot?. (This would not be true, as GMail does not use dovecot, but if the statement would be true, it would correctly answer my question.) I would then be able to recommend my users to open an e-mail account at GMail, if they do not have one already, and they would then be able to use my software with their GMail account.> > >So far I didn?t find a service provider providing free e-mail > accounts > >(similar to GMail, Yahoo, ?) and using Dovecot, which I find very > >surprising, as I thought some of these big names, or at least some > >smaller ones that I do not know, would use Dovecot. > > > > T-mobile uses dovecot, find t-mobile users ;)My question is really: are there providers out there that satisfy these two conditions: a) offer free e-mail accounts (similar to Yahoo, GMail, and so on) b) use dovecot as their IMAP software. Also, information that would point to a non-existence result would be of interest. For example, an article that indicates which softwares the main providers (that offer e-mail accounts for free) use. The real, ?final? question I am interested in is, but which might be slightly off-topic on this list (the reason I asked the other question), is to find providers that satisfy these two conditions: a) offer free e-mail accounts b) implement correctly the IMAP SEARCH feature of RFC 3501. That is because my client uses the IMAP SEARCH feature, and it is usually implemented incorrectly (e.g. in GMail or MS Exchange). -- Olivier
On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 10:15:10AM +0200, Olivier Cailloux wrote:> The real, ?final? question I am interested in is, but which might be > slightly off-topic on this list (the reason I asked the other > question), is to find providers that satisfy these two conditions: > a) offer free e-mail accounts > b) implement correctly the IMAP SEARCH feature of RFC 3501.IMO this is the right question to ask, even here.> That is because my client uses the IMAP SEARCH feature, and it is > usually implemented incorrectly (e.g. in GMail or MS Exchange).Probably it would be more informative to describe which features you need that are implemented "incorrectly". Reality check: RFCs are not government-enforced standards. There are many sensible RFCs that never got implemented widely, or nearly at all, are implemented partially, or there are widely deployed not-fully-compliant software systems. If your client software requires a feature that's not widely available, you're just limiting your audience. You may try to find a different way to achieve your goal using the features that are widely implemented. Real, successful software packages very often contain options to do some quirks in order to stay interoperable with existing noncompliant implementations. -- Piotr "Malgond" Auksztulewicz firstname at lastname.net
On 09 Oct 2020, at 02:15, Olivier Cailloux <olivier.cailloux at dauphine.fr> wrote:> My question is really: are there providers out there that satisfy these > two conditions: > a) offer free e-mail accounts (similar to Yahoo, GMail, and so on)Doubtful, and if so I don't know any.> b) implement correctly the IMAP SEARCH feature of RFC 3501.I believe this is achievable via Roundcube and some plugins (managesieve come to mind). Possibly Horde also supports sieve via plugins. Setting up either webmail client is pretty trivial. -- Everybody wants a rock to wrap a piece of string around