Hello, been lurking a while, about to move over to Dovecot soon. I
have a nice test machine up and running. My previous email server
when talking IMAP to Apple Mail, will eventually go "deaf" and new
messages will not make it to the Inbox of Apple Mail Client. A
restart of the desktop application is required.
I am told that the reason for this is that my current email server
adheres to RFC 3501, specifically section 7, the second paragraph of
which says:
The client MUST be prepared to accept any response at all times.
Apparently, Apple Mail is not adhering to that, and my email server is
sending out that type of response. However, I look at this list, for
which I am not entirely sure how accurate the actual test is:
http://www.imapwiki.org/ImapTest/ServerStatus
It lists Dovecot as one of only two that are fully compliant IMAP
servers. Congrats on that.
My questions are:
Does Dovecot in fact support correctly the above mentioned RFC and
subsection? I assume so. That being the case, I have not had issues
in my testing of Dovecot, nor heard reports of Apple Mail and IMAP
having any significant problems.
How, if that is the case, can Apple Mail and Dovecot work well with
each other, and my current email server is not able to?
My primary reason for moving to Dovecot is to not be burdened by this
issue, as well as have what I consider to be a more advanced storage
mechanism for the actual messages. What I would like to avoid, is
spending a lot of time migrating thousands of users to a new system,
to only have them burdened by the same inability to have email come to
them without an application relaunch.
Thank you for any insight on this.
* I have filed a bug report with Apple, which was accepted. Their
system does not allow me to see the status on the report once it has
been closed.
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Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
On Qua, 2009-05-27 at 12:27 -0700, Scott Haneda wrote:> Hello, been lurking a while, about to move over to Dovecot soon. I > have a nice test machine up and running. My previous email server > when talking IMAP to Apple Mail, will eventually go "deaf" and new > messages will not make it to the Inbox of Apple Mail Client. A > restart of the desktop application is required. > > I am told that the reason for this is that my current email server > adheres to RFC 3501, specifically section 7, the second paragraph of > which says: > The client MUST be prepared to accept any response at all times. > > Apparently, Apple Mail is not adhering to that, and my email server is > sending out that type of response. However, I look at this list, for > which I am not entirely sure how accurate the actual test is: > http://www.imapwiki.org/ImapTest/ServerStatus > > It lists Dovecot as one of only two that are fully compliant IMAP > servers. Congrats on that. > > My questions are: > Does Dovecot in fact support correctly the above mentioned RFC and > subsection? I assume so. That being the case, I have not had issues > in my testing of Dovecot, nor heard reports of Apple Mail and IMAP > having any significant problems. >That's because Timo does a hell of a good job of fixing things, in the case those that Apple gets wrong. Take this for instance: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-1.1/rev/4407b7265afd It brought some people here to tears for not being able to use Mail.app but Timo promptly got a workaround (dunno about the bug he opened on Apple at the time though).> How, if that is the case, can Apple Mail and Dovecot work well with > each other, and my current email server is not able to? >Guess so, from what I said. -- Jose Celestino SAPO.pt::Systems http://www.sapo.pt --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Progress (n.): The process through which Usenet has evolved from smart people in front of dumb terminals to dumb people in front of smart terminals.