> Am 25.01.2021 um 17:04 schrieb Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>:
>
> On 1/22/21 5:12 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> On 1/22/21 9:29 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
>>>> Hence it is as good as dead in my mind when looking into the
future, I
>>>> am looking for future distro of choice.
>>>
>>> A little mentioned choice would be openSUSE, which is direction I
am taking.
>>
>> I do not like system where configuration app can overwrite manualy set
>> config. I started with ClarkConnect in 2005-2006 and to route public
>> subnet into my network I had to delete last iptables command then add
my
>> own, but only after config system did it's own iptables commands. I
had
>> to learn iptables before any other Linux commands and although I
>> mastered it, it is left in unpleasant memory (it took me weeks and help
>> from rare Linux admins to find a solution).
>>
>> I did try SUSE around 2000 but it was complicated to do manual changes
>> (if it was not provided in YAST), so after ClarkConnect I had no desire
>> to even experiment with YAST.
>>
>>
>
> I have no issues with OpenSUSE .. but how is OpenSUSE any better than
> CentOS Stream?
openSUSE is honest.
The CentOS project, RedHat, you, lied to us when you published CentOS 8
and claiming it would be supported until 2029. We believed you because of
the good reputation you had built up with previous CentOS releases.
We suggested CentOS 8 to our customers. And we have been badly f***ed
the a**. Sorry for the wording that you may assume, but that is how it is.
> It is not like we are rolling rawhide packages into CentOS Stream. They
> are updating already created Enterprise Packages in current RHEL with
> Bug Fixes and Security Fixes and a small number of rebases (Enhamcments
> Fixes). But the enhancements are not from Rawhide, they are rebases
> very close to the current releases.
>
> Again .. absolutely nothing wrong with using OpenSUSE (or Ubuntu or
> Debian, etc). I just do not see the advantage.
I see one big advantage: These are honest projects, while you are liars.
>
> I mean, I get it, some people are very upset with the new way CentOS is
> being done. And obviously people get to think what they think. But
> when this was announced, it was also announced that RHEL was going to be
> opened up early in Q1 of 2021 (which has happened and is still happening).
So where is the option to install a RHEL system at a customer site, like I was
able with CentOS?
Really, you (as in the CentOS project) totally screwed it.
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