Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky Linux?> On 22 Jan 2021, at 18:04, Matthew Miller <mattdm at mattdm.org> wrote: > > ?On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 07:25:04AM -0500, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: >> I wonder whether RH plan to fight back FUD they've brought upon by their >> December announcement. > > I mean.... really the only thing we can do is live up to the given plan with > Stream and RHEL options, which as far as I can see is exactly what's > happening. > >> Personally, I found this "no-cost" promise lacking substantial details. > > This is just the announcement of it, of course. The full details will be > there when the whole thing is launched, which the announcement says will be > very soon. > > >> If RH doesn't verify everyone requesting developer subscription (forcing >> to prove identity), the 16 installations limit is easily circumvented by >> multiple registrations. > > There are always going to be cheaters. Don't be one of them. > > > > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> > Fedora Project Leader > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
> Am 22.01.2021 um 21:36 schrieb Jamie Burchell <mail at jamieburchell.com>: > > ?Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky Linux?No.> >>> On 22 Jan 2021, at 18:04, Matthew Miller <mattdm at mattdm.org> wrote: >>> >>> ?On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 07:25:04AM -0500, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: >>> I wonder whether RH plan to fight back FUD they've brought upon by their >>> December announcement. >> >> I mean.... really the only thing we can do is live up to the given plan with >> Stream and RHEL options, which as far as I can see is exactly what's >> happening. >> >>> Personally, I found this "no-cost" promise lacking substantial details. >> >> This is just the announcement of it, of course. The full details will be >> there when the whole thing is launched, which the announcement says will be >> very soon. >> >> >>> If RH doesn't verify everyone requesting developer subscription (forcing >>> to prove identity), the 16 installations limit is easily circumvented by >>> multiple registrations. >> >> There are always going to be cheaters. Don't be one of them. >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthew Miller >> <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> >> Fedora Project Leader >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 08:35:44PM +0000, Jamie Burchell wrote:> Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky Linux?Yes, in two possible ways. First, Red Hat could stop making RHEL. The amount of work that goes into this is _quite_ significant, particularly in terms of the long-term stability that everyone is very excited about. Rebuild projects would then have nothing to rebuild. But, Red Hat isn't going to do that, because RHEL is important to Red Hat both as a product and as a base for the company's other projects. Second, Red Hat goes way beyond the obligations of the licenses of many of the pieces of software that comprise the distribution. Large, vital swaths of RHEL are not under "copyleft" style licenses. Without the full source published in a regular and timely manner, rebuilds couldn't exist. But, Red Hat isn't going to do that, for a number of reasons but mostly because free and open source is essential to what Red Hat *is* as a company. And it's not just a goodwill thing or whatever: everyone from the front lines up to the highest levels knows that it's key to our business success. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader