CentOS - Sep 2019 - Missing packages in centos8 mirrors or do I miss something?

Hi,

I need to port OSCAR Cluster and SystemImager softwares to centos8, but I miss a
lot of package that seems to be built for centos-8.
For example, I cant find docbook-utils and docbook-utls-pdf while I see them
here: https://koji.mbox.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=651

I?ve installed epel-release and elrepo-release and centos-release-stream.

Do I miss something or is it a matter of time due to mirro syncs?

I misse btrfs packages, perl-Tk packages, docbook packages and many more that I
can find on https://koji.mbox.centos.org/koji/builds

Where am I wrong?

PS: I?m running CentOS-8 in docker (roboxes/centos8 wainting for official
centos:8 container). (I think that my issue is not related to the container
though as I can?t find packages on mirror repos.

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Olivier LAHAYE

On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 05:24, LAHAYE Olivier <olivier.lahaye at cea.fr>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I need to port OSCAR Cluster and SystemImager softwares to centos8, but I
miss a lot of package that seems to be built for centos-8.
> For example, I cant find docbook-utils and docbook-utls-pdf while I see
them here: https://koji.mbox.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=651
>
So what was shipped in CentOS-8 matches what was shipped in RHEL-8.
Red Hat wanted to cut down the number of packages it would offer
different levels of support for so while packages are built they might
be shuffled into either BaseOS (strong support long lifetime),
AppStream (strong support short lifetime), Code Read Builder (no
support called PowerTools because Code Ready is a product line), and
not shipped.

so so docbook-dtds is in AppStream
docbook-utils is in  PowerTools

and docbook-utils-pdf is not shipped.
> I?ve installed epel-release and elrepo-release and centos-release-stream.
>
> Do I miss something or is it a matter of time due to mirro syncs?
>
> I misse btrfs packages, perl-Tk packages, docbook packages and many more
that I can find on https://koji.mbox.centos.org/koji/builds
>
perl-tk is in PowerTools
btrfs is in the NotShipped

> Where am I wrong?
>
> PS: I?m running CentOS-8 in docker (roboxes/centos8 wainting for official
centos:8 container). (I think that my issue is not related to the container
though as I can?t find packages on mirror repos.
>
> --
> Olivier LAHAYE
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-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.

Thanks a lot for this clear explanation.

Now a few more questions:

- Is there an official/unofficial repo for packages that are built by koji but
are not "shipped" ?

- Any idea why docbook-utils is shipped while docbook-utils-pdf is not? It is
the same source package. This is wired and makes this difficult for alternative
repo like epel or elrepo to add the missing bits and pieces like
docbook-utils-pdf... If its obsolete, do you know any replacement that would let
me convert my sgml doc (systemimager) to a more modern (still generic format)
that has converters to man and html formats at least? (and pdf also)

-Is there a place where I could read about all dropped packages? I've
searched in redhat changelog and centos and all I could find is a few packages
dropped like NIS related or so.

Cheers,

PS: I've found btrfs-progs in elrepo-testing, so I suppose it'll end
soon in elrepo

Olivier.

?Le 26/09/2019 14:11, ? CentOS au nom de Stephen John Smoogen ?
<centos-bounces at centos.org au nom de smooge at gmail.com> a ?crit :

    On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 05:24, LAHAYE Olivier <olivier.lahaye at
cea.fr> wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I need to port OSCAR Cluster and SystemImager softwares to centos8, but
I miss a lot of package that seems to be built for centos-8.
    > For example, I cant find docbook-utils and docbook-utls-pdf while I see
them here: https://koji.mbox.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=651
    >
    
    So what was shipped in CentOS-8 matches what was shipped in RHEL-8.
    Red Hat wanted to cut down the number of packages it would offer
    different levels of support for so while packages are built they might
    be shuffled into either BaseOS (strong support long lifetime),
    AppStream (strong support short lifetime), Code Read Builder (no
    support called PowerTools because Code Ready is a product line), and
    not shipped.
    
    so so docbook-dtds is in AppStream
    docbook-utils is in  PowerTools
    
    and docbook-utils-pdf is not shipped.
    
    > I?ve installed epel-release and elrepo-release and
centos-release-stream.
    >
    > Do I miss something or is it a matter of time due to mirro syncs?
    >
    > I misse btrfs packages, perl-Tk packages, docbook packages and many
more that I can find on https://koji.mbox.centos.org/koji/builds
    >
    
    perl-tk is in PowerTools
    btrfs is in the NotShipped
    
    
    > Where am I wrong?
    >
    > PS: I?m running CentOS-8 in docker (roboxes/centos8 wainting for
official centos:8 container). (I think that my issue is not related to the
container though as I can?t find packages on mirror repos.
    >
    > --
    > Olivier LAHAYE
    > _______________________________________________
    > CentOS mailing list
    > CentOS at centos.org
    > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
    
    
    
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    Stephen J Smoogen.
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