On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 07:44 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 06:00, isdtor <isdtor at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is > > it to get some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site sends > > you from link to link, and the ML web interface is horrible. No > > interest here to become a package maintainer or regular > > contributor. > > > > If you have interest in being a package maintainer or regular > contributor it can be very hard to get packages updated. EPEL is > trying to mainly deal with people who want long term supported > package > sets with limited manpower to do so. > > > I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, seeing > > that the current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions behind. Also > > updated a few packages to their latest upstream version. > > If you are needing the latest upstream versions... I would say you > are > probably going to need to maintain these things yourself. As much as > you want/need the latest MATE or some other item there are other > people who don't and EPEL package maintainers can't satisfy both > demands. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS at centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > >The problem is that the current version of Mate in the EPEL repos prevents updating from 7.5 to 7.6. There is a dependency problem with libgtop. For example trying to update marco gives you. Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package marco.x86_64 0:1.16.1-3.el7 will be installed --> Processing Dependency: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) for package: marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Package: marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 (epel) ???????????Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) ?You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem The same dependency holds for several mate packages. So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it yourself are the choices.. Regards, Tony.>-- Tony Molloy <tony.molloy at ul.ie> Home
On 12/04/2018 09:08 AM, Tony Molloy wrote:> > The same dependency holds for several mate packages. > > So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it > yourself are the choices.. >Using EPEL-testing also solves the problem in many cases, might also be able to build a temporary compat library package for old version of libgtop until MATE packages are updated.
> Date: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 17:08:52 +0000 > From: Tony Molloy <tony.molloy at ul.ie> > > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 07:44 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 06:00, isdtor <isdtor at gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is >> > it to get some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site >> > sends you from link to link, and the ML web interface is >> > horrible. No interest here to become a package maintainer or >> > regular contributor. >> > >> >> If you have interest in being a package maintainer or regular >> contributor it can be very hard to get packages updated. EPEL is >> trying to mainly deal with people who want long term supported >> package >> sets with limited manpower to do so. >> >> > I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, >> > seeing that the current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions >> > behind. Also updated a few packages to their latest upstream >> > version. >> >> If you are needing the latest upstream versions... I would say you >> are >> probably going to need to maintain these things yourself. As much >> as you want/need the latest MATE or some other item there are other >> people who don't and EPEL package maintainers can't satisfy both >> demands. >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > CentOS mailing list >> > CentOS at centos.org >> > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> >> > > The problem is that the current version of Mate in the EPEL repos > prevents updating from 7.5 to 7.6. There is a dependency problem > with libgtop. > > For example trying to update marco gives you. > > Resolving Dependencies > --> Running transaction check > ---> Package marco.x86_64 0:1.16.1-3.el7 will be installed > --> Processing Dependency: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) for package: > marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Package: marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 (epel) > ???????????Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) > ?You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem > > The same dependency holds for several mate packages. > > So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it > yourself are the choices.. > > Regards, > > Tony.The epel-testing repo resolves these dependencies, so include it when updating and things should be ok -- I just updated a mate desktop system with no issues (it pulled about half a dozen items from -testing).
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 12:18, Richard <lists-centos at listmail.innovate.net> wrote:> > > > > Date: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 17:08:52 +0000 > > From: Tony Molloy <tony.molloy at ul.ie> > > > > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 07:44 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 06:00, isdtor <isdtor at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is > >> > it to get some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site > >> > sends you from link to link, and the ML web interface is > >> > horrible. No interest here to become a package maintainer or > >> > regular contributor. > >> > > >> > >> If you have interest in being a package maintainer or regular > >> contributor it can be very hard to get packages updated. EPEL is > >> trying to mainly deal with people who want long term supported > >> package > >> sets with limited manpower to do so. > >> > >> > I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, > >> > seeing that the current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions > >> > behind. Also updated a few packages to their latest upstream > >> > version. > >> > >> If you are needing the latest upstream versions... I would say you > >> are > >> probably going to need to maintain these things yourself. As much > >> as you want/need the latest MATE or some other item there are other > >> people who don't and EPEL package maintainers can't satisfy both > >> demands. > >> > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > CentOS mailing list > >> > CentOS at centos.org > >> > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > >> > >> > > > > The problem is that the current version of Mate in the EPEL repos > > prevents updating from 7.5 to 7.6. There is a dependency problem > > with libgtop. > > > > For example trying to update marco gives you. > > > > Resolving Dependencies > > --> Running transaction check > > ---> Package marco.x86_64 0:1.16.1-3.el7 will be installed > > --> Processing Dependency: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) for package: > > marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 > > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > > Error: Package: marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 (epel) > > Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) > > You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem > > > > The same dependency holds for several mate packages. > > > > So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it > > yourself are the choices.. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tony. > > The epel-testing repo resolves these dependencies, so include it when > updating and things should be ok -- I just updated a mate desktop > system with no issues (it pulled about half a dozen items from > -testing).The maintainer of the Mate packages did not push the updated packages to EPEL until after CentOS-7.6 was out because he did not want to break 7.5 users. Now that 7.6.1810 is released, it should get promoted to epel in the next couple of days. -- Stephen J Smoogen.
On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 09:16 -0800, Alice Wonder wrote:> On 12/04/2018 09:08 AM, Tony Molloy wrote: > > > > > The same dependency holds for several mate packages. > > > > So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it > > yourself are the choices.. > > > > Using EPEL-testing also solves the problem in many cases, might also > be? > able to build a temporary compat library package for old version of? > libgtop until MATE packages are updated. > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centosYep I'm just running up a VM to test the epel-testing solution. Regards, Tony -- Tony Molloy <tony.molloy at ul.ie> Home