On 30/10/18 20:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:> > On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >>> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >>>> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM >>>> POWER >>>> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the >>>> hardware >>>> market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS alive)! >>> Er, RHEL has been running on Power for a very long time.? The fastest >>> supercomputer in the world is Power9 + RHEL. >> What I meant is that POWER could become a competitor for Intel/AMD based >> servers. We're now running AMD EPYC servers with 64Cores/128Threads >> and we >> didn't find any POWER system which could compete in this area. >> >> Also, looking at TOP500 list there are not so many POWER systems >> anymore. >> IBM could change this now. >> >> Regards, >> Simon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > Yeah.....I guess that's one way to look at it. > > My biggest worry? Is I've placed so much time and effort "getting to > know" Fedora and its intricacies, idiosyncrasies, its ins and > outs...dealt with ridicule on this very same list when I first > started, have "cut my teeth" on learning VERY hard lessons about > certain syntax in the Terminal and what NOT to type.......only to have > that all "taken" away from me at the whim of IBM. It just seems > unfair. I'm hoping like H3LL that the developers @ Fedora are > seriously thinking about forking "Just In Case"!? I mean they could > still use the .RPM extensions, and possibly even still pull their code > from RHEL, but at least they would be autonomous and wouldn't have to > rely on IBM's good will in order to keep on churning out what....to > me...is the best Linux distro on the planet! As I write this....I'm > eyeballing the spare ThinkPad T-410 that I've neglected since I have > Fedora running on a Dell XPS, and I'm thinking its time to get "back > to my roots" and to find a distro I can put on that device and run > without concern....I've heard some decent things about this "Pop-OS" > which comes with System76's hardware. Maybe I'll give that a > spin......then like I had said before...there's always Debian plain > vanilla...with maybe MATE or Cinnamon?.....or else its going to have > to be where I buckle down and finally learn all there is to know about > LFS and Arch Linux and then move on to one of those...(God!.....at > 47!?....its like how can I POSSIBLY start over again!?...) and THIS is > the kind of turmoil that ensues when a corporation buys a fully > functioning open course company! >wow, I am just 62 and looking forward to the next round of CentOS? - version 8 coming up? - must be due soon .... Love learning new stuff, it never gets old (pun intended). sorry for the noise, but couldn't resist, must be the age ....> > > EGO II > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 10/30/18 3:20 AM, Rob Kampen wrote:> On 30/10/18 20:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: >> >> On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >>>> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >>>>> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM >>>>> POWER >>>>> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the >>>>> hardware >>>>> market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS >>>>> alive)! >>>> Er, RHEL has been running on Power for a very long time. The fastest >>>> supercomputer in the world is Power9 + RHEL. >>> What I meant is that POWER could become a competitor for Intel/AMD >>> based >>> servers. We're now running AMD EPYC servers with 64Cores/128Threads >>> and we >>> didn't find any POWER system which could compete in this area. >>> >>> Also, looking at TOP500 list there are not so many POWER systems >>> anymore. >>> IBM could change this now. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Simon >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CentOS mailing list >>> CentOS at centos.org >>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> >> >> Yeah.....I guess that's one way to look at it. >> >> My biggest worry? Is I've placed so much time and effort "getting to >> know" Fedora and its intricacies, idiosyncrasies, its ins and >> outs...dealt with ridicule on this very same list when I first >> started, have "cut my teeth" on learning VERY hard lessons about >> certain syntax in the Terminal and what NOT to type.......only to >> have that all "taken" away from me at the whim of IBM. It just seems >> unfair. I'm hoping like H3LL that the developers @ Fedora are >> seriously thinking about forking "Just In Case"!? I mean they could >> still use the .RPM extensions, and possibly even still pull their >> code from RHEL, but at least they would be autonomous and wouldn't >> have to rely on IBM's good will in order to keep on churning out >> what....to me...is the best Linux distro on the planet! As I write >> this....I'm eyeballing the spare ThinkPad T-410 that I've neglected >> since I have Fedora running on a Dell XPS, and I'm thinking its time >> to get "back to my roots" and to find a distro I can put on that >> device and run without concern....I've heard some decent things about >> this "Pop-OS" which comes with System76's hardware. Maybe I'll give >> that a spin......then like I had said before...there's always Debian >> plain vanilla...with maybe MATE or Cinnamon?.....or else its going to >> have to be where I buckle down and finally learn all there is to know >> about LFS and Arch Linux and then move on to one of >> those...(God!.....at 47!?....its like how can I POSSIBLY start over >> again!?...) and THIS is the kind of turmoil that ensues when a >> corporation buys a fully functioning open course company! >> > wow, I am just 62 and looking forward to the next round of CentOS - > version 8 coming up? - must be due soon .... > Love learning new stuff, it never gets old (pun intended). > sorry for the noise, but couldn't resist, must be the age ....Hahahaah!.....good one! Now THAT made me smile!.....thanks for the laugh! Gotta remember to not always be the Doom & Gloom bearer! :o)! Guess I'll just keep on truckin' with F29...and hope all goes well. EGO II>> >> >> EGO II >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 30/10/2018 09:25, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:> > On 10/30/18 3:20 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: >> On 30/10/18 20:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: >>> >>> On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >>>>> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >>>>>> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM >>>>>> POWER >>>>>> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the >>>>>> hardware >>>>>> market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS >>>>>> alive)! >>>>> Er, RHEL has been running on Power for a very long time. The fastest >>>>> supercomputer in the world is Power9 + RHEL. >>>> What I meant is that POWER could become a competitor for Intel/AMD >>>> based >>>> servers. We're now running AMD EPYC servers with 64Cores/128Threads >>>> and we >>>> didn't find any POWER system which could compete in this area. >>>> >>>> Also, looking at TOP500 list there are not so many POWER systems >>>> anymore. >>>> IBM could change this now. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CentOS mailing list >>>> CentOS at centos.org >>>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>> >>> >>> Yeah.....I guess that's one way to look at it. >>> >>> My biggest worry? Is I've placed so much time and effort "getting to >>> know" Fedora and its intricacies, idiosyncrasies, its ins and >>> outs...dealt with ridicule on this very same list when I first >>> started, have "cut my teeth" on learning VERY hard lessons about >>> certain syntax in the Terminal and what NOT to type.......only to >>> have that all "taken" away from me at the whim of IBM. It just seems >>> unfair. I'm hoping like H3LL that the developers @ Fedora are >>> seriously thinking about forking "Just In Case"!? I mean they could >>> still use the .RPM extensions, and possibly even still pull their >>> code from RHEL, but at least they would be autonomous and wouldn't >>> have to rely on IBM's good will in order to keep on churning out >>> what....to me...is the best Linux distro on the planet! As I write >>> this....I'm eyeballing the spare ThinkPad T-410 that I've neglected >>> since I have Fedora running on a Dell XPS, and I'm thinking its time >>> to get "back to my roots" and to find a distro I can put on that >>> device and run without concern....I've heard some decent things >>> about this "Pop-OS" which comes with System76's hardware. Maybe I'll >>> give that a spin......then like I had said before...there's always >>> Debian plain vanilla...with maybe MATE or Cinnamon?.....or else its >>> going to have to be where I buckle down and finally learn all there >>> is to know about LFS and Arch Linux and then move on to one of >>> those...(God!.....at 47!?....its like how can I POSSIBLY start over >>> again!?...) and THIS is the kind of turmoil that ensues when a >>> corporation buys a fully functioning open course company! >>> >> wow, I am just 62 and looking forward to the next round of CentOS - >> version 8 coming up? - must be due soon .... >> Love learning new stuff, it never gets old (pun intended). >> sorry for the noise, but couldn't resist, must be the age .... > > > > Hahahaah!.....good one! Now THAT made me smile!.....thanks for the > laugh! Gotta remember to not always be the Doom & Gloom bearer! :o)! > Guess I'll just keep on truckin' with F29...and hope all goes well. > > > > EGO II > > >But it is also entirely possible that CentOS 8 will be the last one to come out. Before a corporate agenda will "merge" it with their general philosophy. To me it looks pathetic that a lively profitable entity with an entirely different corporate psychology is consumed by big conglomerates. What for? By the way I am 60 and been following Linux/Linus since Kernel 0.99. Some time before RedHat appeared strong on the scene. Andreas