Le 28/10/2018 ? 22:10, Albert McCann a ?crit?:> Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep.Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also contributed to Free software, and especially Linux kernel. I don't know how bad it is and the implications for CentOS... Alain -- Administrateur Syst?me/R?seau C2N (ex LPN) Centre de Nanosciences et Nanotechnologies (UMR 9001) Avenue de La vauve, 91920 Palaiseau Tel : 01-70-27-06-88
> -----Original Message----- > From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Alain p?an > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 5:21 PM > To: centos at centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat > > Le 28/10/2018 ? 22:10, Albert McCann a ?crit?: > > Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep. > > Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also > contributed to Free software, and especially Linux kernel. > I don't know how bad it is and the implications for CentOS...IBM screwed up with the purchase of the Weather.com properties, including Weather Underground. For more than a decade, WU benefitted from thousands of people with personal weather stations feeding local data to WU. IBM now plans to kill the existing WU weather API (which also was the Weather.com API), and gives the appearance of screwing over all those personal weather folks. While IBM now claims that they will have minimal 'free' access 'to their own data', a huge number of the PW folks have bailed and left, as IBM won't even tell them if they can even have the three-day forecast, let alone the ten-day forecast, plus the weather alerts data. The WU API will die 12-31-18, and still there is no announcement as to what and how the PW people will be allowed to access the API. this leaves a bunch of downstream users who had free API keys, which WU gave out to nonprofit users up until last April or so. It also screws over the paid API users, and looks like the costs for commercial API access will drastically increase. The IBM rep on the message forum still claims that IBM will support the PW data providers, but will not answer what exactly that will provide to those PW providers. As they've completely screwed over users providing free data, I can see them attempting to do the same to the 'free software' company where they plan to monetize the software and data the same way as the weather data. Read all the comments here from the PW providers: https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/end-of-service-for-the-weather-underground-api Al
On Sun Oct 28 10:20:31 PM, Alain p?an wrote:> Le 28/10/2018 ? 22:10, Albert McCann a ?crit?: > > Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep. > > Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also > contributed to Free software, and especially Linux kernel. > I don't know how bad it is and the implications for CentOS...That old war wound started aching again. IBM:Redhat :: Oracle:Sun Cheers, Zube
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 03:54:06PM -0600, Zube wrote:> > Le 28/10/2018 ? 22:10, Albert McCann a ?crit?: > > > > Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also > > contributed to Free software, and especially Linux kernel. > > I don't know how bad it is and the implications for CentOS... > > That old war wound started aching again. > > IBM:Redhat :: Oracle:SunAt least IBM is a far more attractive buyer than the evil Oracle, well known for killing OSS companies as a strategy. Also Microsoft has ben mentioned as possible buyer of Red Hat, that would be much worse too. So, let's not be too pessimistic and give IBM a fair chance. IBM certainly does not have a bad track record on open source and as a technology-driven company, at least a much better track record than most if not all other potential buyers. -- -- Jos Vos <jos at xos.nl> -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Office: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Mobile: +31 6 26216181
On 10/28/18 17:54, Zube wrote:> On Sun Oct 28 10:20:31 PM, Alain p?an wrote: > >> Le 28/10/2018 ? 22:10, Albert McCann a ?crit?: >>> Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep. >> >> Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also >> contributed to Free software, and especially Linux kernel. >> I don't know how bad it is and the implications for CentOS... > > That old war wound started aching again. > > IBM:Redhat :: Oracle:SunActually, it could have been *much8 worse: *Oracle* could have bought RH. That *really* would have been an order of magnitude worse. mark