I think we had enough of Systemd flaming last month. Please stop polluting my inbox and find an operating system compatible with your worldview. It is really tiresome to keep on hearing about it. On 8 June 2017 at 14:51, John Hodrien <J.H.Hodrien at leeds.ac.uk> wrote:> On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > Upstream 6 uses systemd? >>>> >>>> jh >>>> >>> >>> yes, 6.6 and above >>> >> >> RHEL6 has used Upstart since RHEL 6.0, and continues to use it in RHEL >> 6.9. I have no idea where you'd get this kind of information. >> > > If you really thought Redhat would switch from upstart of systemd, within a > major release, I have no idea why you'd want to use anything based on > Redhat. > > jh > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
On 06/08/2017 09:12 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:> I think we had enough of Systemd flaming last month. Please stop polluting > my inbox and find an operating system compatible with your worldview. It is > really tiresome to keep on hearing about it. >Huh. Okay, though I'm not sure when you became arbiter of this list. If you don't like 'our worldview' discussions, maybe you need to find a different OS that suits your childish attitude. Like Windows 95. Mailing lists now are so full of children it's hard to even use them. Maybe you should leave IT if heated discussions make you uncomfortable.
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 09:15:23AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote:> Huh. Okay, though I'm not sure when you became arbiter of this list. If you > don't like 'our worldview' discussions, maybe you need to find a different > OS that suits your childish attitude. Like Windows 95. > > Mailing lists now are so full of children it's hard to even use them. Maybe > you should leave IT if heated discussions make you uncomfortable.I certainly would not suggest anyone leave this list or stop using CentOS. While I don't think we need to be yelling at each other, I do sympathize with anyone frustrated by the continued ignorance of some of the more vocal proponents of the systemd-haters crowd. The CentOS list continues to be a good resource, even if it's learning about systemd. Sometimes the complaints about systemd can be turned into a learning experience (such as how fstab works). I think that if we can attempt to frame questions about systemd in a more positive way, everyone would get more out of it. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
Mark Haney wrote:> On 06/08/2017 09:12 AM, Andrew Holway wrote: >> I think we had enough of Systemd flaming last month. Please stop >> polluting my inbox and find an operating system compatible with your >> worldview. It is really tiresome to keep on hearing about it. >> > Huh. Okay, though I'm not sure when you became arbiter of this list. If > you don't like 'our worldview' discussions, maybe you need to find a > different OS that suits your childish attitude. Like Windows 95. > > Mailing lists now are so full of children it's hard to even use them. > Maybe you should leave IT if heated discussions make you uncomfortable.Folks, I'm the one who made the original annoyed throwaway remark. I've even asked that we end the incipient flamewar. Look, as much as I dislike systemd, going on and on and on just ain't of interest. Hell, I'll probably skim and delete, or just delete. Now, the information that someone posted about what might be happening to cause my original question was helpful, and in *that* context, in the same email, cmts about systemd, sure. But I dunno 'bout most of you, but a flamewar that runs for *weeks*, as we've seen here, is of no interest. Maybe we need another mailing list, like alt.religion.editors*, we could have alt.religion.systemd.... <g> mark * vi, not emacs! Nyahhhh....