On 5/25/2017 12:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:> > > On 05/25/2017 11:22 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> On 5/25/2017 10:04 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 05/25/2017 09:32 AM, Leon Fauster wrote: >>>>> Am 25.05.2017 um 15:27 schrieb Robert Moskowitz >>>>> <rgm at htt-consult.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. I followed this to: >>>>> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/ >>>>> >>>>> And could not find any of the following: >>>>> >>>>> No package xfce-utils available. >>>>> No package NetworkManager-gnome available. >>>>> No package leafpad available. >>>>> No package xfce4-icon-theme available. >>>>> Package xfce4-mixer is obsoleted by xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, >>>>> trying to install xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin-0.2.4-4.el7.x86_64 instead >>>>> No package xfwm4-theme-nodoka available. >>>>> >>>>> So it would appear that an Xfce desktop install is 'broken' for >>>>> some level of brokeness for Centos7. >>>>> >>>>> But interestingly, NetworkManager-gnome is not used by gnome. It >>>>> has a bunch of other NetworkManager rpms. I also checked Fedora >>>>> 21 and 24 and their Xfce desktop does not list >>>>> NetworkManager-gnome when I do a group info xfce. So there is >>>>> something wrong in the packaging of the xfce group in Centos7-x64 >>>>> that Scott provided me... >>>> >>>> Xfce is provided by EPEL: >>>> >>>> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-May/164858.html >>> >>> I missed that your two emails pointed to different urls. Thanks. But... >>> >>> Enabling epel does not provide an Xfce group. >>> Enabling epel does not give me the missing rpms. It does provide >>> both mixer and pulseaudio-plugin, but not the others. >>> >>> So Xfce is still broken at some level of brokeness with C7. >> >> On my rather basic C7 system with epel enabled, I don't see any >> problems. >> >> # yum groupinstall "Xfce" >> ... >> Install 20 Packages (+193 Dependent packages) >> >> It did not give any errors and the install list does not mention any >> of the missing packages that you list above. It works fine with C7. >> There must be some difference with your system. >> > The group is not on my system. I am using ClearOS' version of the > Centos repos, so not necessarily a surprise. And all my other servers > are Centos7-armv7hl, also with no Xfce group. But the armv7hl repos > have a number of build challenges that we have had to work around... > > Can you please run: > > yum group info Xfce > > and send me the output?Here is what the group info gives me: Group: Xfce Group-Id: xfce-desktop Description: A lightweight desktop environment that works well on low end machines. Mandatory Packages: +Thunar +xfce-utils +xfce4-panel +xfce4-session +xfce4-settings +xfconf +xfdesktop +xfwm4 Default Packages: +NetworkManager-gnome +gdm +leafpad +openssh-askpass +orage +polkit-gnome +thunar-archive-plugin +thunar-volman +tumbler +xfce4-appfinder +xfce4-icon-theme +xfce4-power-manager +xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin +xfce4-session-engines +xfce4-terminal +xfwm4-theme-nodoka Optional Packages: xfwm4-themes Conditional Packages: +pinentry-gtk I don't know why that list is different from what it actually tries to install. When I try to install it, I get this: Installing for group install "Xfce": Thunar x86_64 1.6.11-1.el7 epel 1.4 M gdm x86_64 1:3.14.2-20.el7_3 updates 719 k openssh-askpass x86_64 6.6.1p1-35.el7_3 updates 74 k orage x86_64 4.12.1-3.el7 epel 1.8 M polkit-gnome x86_64 0.105-6.el7 epel 82 k thunar-archive-plugin x86_64 0.3.1-6.el7 epel 69 k thunar-volman x86_64 0.8.1-2.el7 epel 175 k tumbler x86_64 0.1.31-2.el7 epel 195 k xfce4-appfinder x86_64 4.12.0-4.el7 epel 194 k xfce4-panel x86_64 4.12.0-4.el7 epel 820 k xfce4-power-manager x86_64 1.6.0-2.el7 epel 769 k xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin x86_64 0.2.5-1.el7 epel 71 k xfce4-session x86_64 4.12.1-8.el7 epel 484 k xfce4-session-engines x86_64 4.12.1-8.el7 epel 315 k xfce4-settings x86_64 4.12.0-7.el7 epel 658 k xfce4-terminal x86_64 0.6.3-4.el7 epel 484 k xfconf x86_64 4.12.0-3.el7 epel 199 k xfdesktop x86_64 4.12.3-2.el7 epel 1.0 M xfwm4 x86_64 4.12.3-2.el7 epel 627 k Installing: pinentry-gtk x86_64 0.8.1-17.el7 base 51 k Plus 193 dependencies. I do not have any xfce packages installed already. -- Bowie
On 05/25/2017 12:29 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote:> On 5/25/2017 12:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >> >> On 05/25/2017 11:22 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >>> On 5/25/2017 10:04 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/25/2017 09:32 AM, Leon Fauster wrote: >>>>>> Am 25.05.2017 um 15:27 schrieb Robert Moskowitz >>>>>> <rgm at htt-consult.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. I followed this to: >>>>>> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/ >>>>>> >>>>>> And could not find any of the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> No package xfce-utils available. >>>>>> No package NetworkManager-gnome available. >>>>>> No package leafpad available. >>>>>> No package xfce4-icon-theme available. >>>>>> Package xfce4-mixer is obsoleted by xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, >>>>>> trying to install xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin-0.2.4-4.el7.x86_64 instead >>>>>> No package xfwm4-theme-nodoka available. >>>>>> >>>>>> So it would appear that an Xfce desktop install is 'broken' for >>>>>> some level of brokeness for Centos7. >>>>>> >>>>>> But interestingly, NetworkManager-gnome is not used by gnome. It >>>>>> has a bunch of other NetworkManager rpms. I also checked Fedora >>>>>> 21 and 24 and their Xfce desktop does not list >>>>>> NetworkManager-gnome when I do a group info xfce. So there is >>>>>> something wrong in the packaging of the xfce group in Centos7-x64 >>>>>> that Scott provided me... >>>>> >>>>> Xfce is provided by EPEL: >>>>> >>>>> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-May/164858.html >>>> >>>> I missed that your two emails pointed to different urls. Thanks. >>>> But... >>>> >>>> Enabling epel does not provide an Xfce group. >>>> Enabling epel does not give me the missing rpms. It does provide >>>> both mixer and pulseaudio-plugin, but not the others. >>>> >>>> So Xfce is still broken at some level of brokeness with C7. >>> >>> On my rather basic C7 system with epel enabled, I don't see any >>> problems. >>> >>> # yum groupinstall "Xfce" >>> ... >>> Install 20 Packages (+193 Dependent packages) >>> >>> It did not give any errors and the install list does not mention any >>> of the missing packages that you list above. It works fine with >>> C7. There must be some difference with your system. >>> >> The group is not on my system. I am using ClearOS' version of the >> Centos repos, so not necessarily a surprise. And all my other >> servers are Centos7-armv7hl, also with no Xfce group. But the >> armv7hl repos have a number of build challenges that we have had to >> work around... >> >> Can you please run: >> >> yum group info Xfce >> >> and send me the output? > > Here is what the group info gives me: > > Group: Xfce > Group-Id: xfce-desktop > Description: A lightweight desktop environment that works well on low > end machines. > Mandatory Packages: > +Thunar > +xfce-utils > +xfce4-panel > +xfce4-session > +xfce4-settings > +xfconf > +xfdesktop > +xfwm4 > Default Packages: > +NetworkManager-gnome > +gdm > +leafpad > +openssh-askpass > +orage > +polkit-gnome > +thunar-archive-plugin > +thunar-volman > +tumbler > +xfce4-appfinder > +xfce4-icon-theme > +xfce4-power-manager > +xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin > +xfce4-session-engines > +xfce4-terminal > +xfwm4-theme-nodoka > Optional Packages: > xfwm4-themes > Conditional Packages: > +pinentry-gtk > > I don't know why that list is different from what it actually tries to > install. When I try to install it, I get this: > > Installing for group install "Xfce": > Thunar x86_64 1.6.11-1.el7 epel 1.4 M > gdm x86_64 1:3.14.2-20.el7_3 updates 719 k > openssh-askpass x86_64 6.6.1p1-35.el7_3 > updates 74 k > orage x86_64 4.12.1-3.el7 epel 1.8 M > polkit-gnome x86_64 0.105-6.el7 epel 82 k > thunar-archive-plugin x86_64 0.3.1-6.el7 > epel 69 k > thunar-volman x86_64 0.8.1-2.el7 epel 175 k > tumbler x86_64 0.1.31-2.el7 epel 195 k > xfce4-appfinder x86_64 4.12.0-4.el7 epel 194 k > xfce4-panel x86_64 4.12.0-4.el7 epel 820 k > xfce4-power-manager x86_64 1.6.0-2.el7 epel > 769 k > xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin x86_64 0.2.5-1.el7 > epel 71 k > xfce4-session x86_64 4.12.1-8.el7 epel 484 k > xfce4-session-engines x86_64 4.12.1-8.el7 > epel 315 k > xfce4-settings x86_64 4.12.0-7.el7 epel 658 k > xfce4-terminal x86_64 0.6.3-4.el7 epel 484 k > xfconf x86_64 4.12.0-3.el7 epel 199 k > xfdesktop x86_64 4.12.3-2.el7 epel 1.0 M > xfwm4 x86_64 4.12.3-2.el7 epel 627 k > Installing: > pinentry-gtk x86_64 0.8.1-17.el7 base 51 k > > Plus 193 dependencies. I do not have any xfce packages installed > already. >Note that you do not have xfce-utils or leafpad. Do you have themes? What is your background. I have actually gotten Xfce working. Kindof. I am into Xfce via vncserver. It pretty much looks like Xfce on my Fedora systems. Backleveled a bit of course. No sensor applet to show the cpu temp for example. But no background, other than black. Oh, and no NetworkManager on the tray. I am going to install geany for the editor. I use geany a lot for editing xml and html files so am familiar with it. It is just a bit much for editing a simple text file. Anyway, it is possible to get Xfce running on Centos7, but it is missing some rpms.
On 5/25/2017 3:43 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:> > Note that you do not have xfce-utils or leafpad. > > Do you have themes? What is your background. > > I have actually gotten Xfce working. Kindof. I am into Xfce via > vncserver. It pretty much looks like Xfce on my Fedora systems. > Backleveled a bit of course. No sensor applet to show the cpu temp > for example. > > But no background, other than black. > > Oh, and no NetworkManager on the tray. > > I am going to install geany for the editor. I use geany a lot for > editing xml and html files so am familiar with it. It is just a bit > much for editing a simple text file. > > Anyway, it is possible to get Xfce running on Centos7, but it is > missing some rpms.I don't actually use Xfce. I was just noting that it did not give me any errors on my system regarding missing packages. I have not attempted to install and use it. -- Bowie