Sylvain CANOINE wrote:>> De: "Jonathan Billings" <billings at negate.org>>> Maybe you're not aware of it, but there are a LOT of things that >> systemd fixes that people are happy about.> Like what ? I don't remember there were as many errors to fix before > systemd appeared. >Agreed. The speed of boot and shutdown? Whoop-de-do. I've got HP servers that take about 70 second BEFORE THE LOGO ever comes up, just blank screen, before POST. And my servers - for at least a lot of them, I've got once a month maintenance windows to reboot. Some, maybe once every three months. Why should I care about speed of reboot? That matters on someone's laptop, but the rest? Or the annoyance with NetMangler, that in 7 is not only noisy, but keeps wanting to do stuff with wifi... on a wired workstation, and I have yet to figure out how to shut it up. Or systemctl restart somethingorother, that gives *ZERO* warm fuzzies while running, just nothing, and you have to run another command to find out what happened. Or the non-plain-text configuration files, which are just *wonderful* NOT when you're in linux rescue. Just because you *can* do something does not mean you *should*. mark
Can this thread just end, it's been hashed and rehashed. If there is a moderator out there can we just kill the topic? Lets move along. :)
Tom Bishop wrote:> Can this thread just end, it's been hashed and rehashed. If there is a > moderator out there can we just kill the topic? > > Lets move along. :)Other than the one I posted, about pmount, sure, I'm out of it now. mark
On Wed, January 27, 2016 10:07 am, Tom Bishop wrote:> Can this thread just end, it's been hashed and rehashed. If there is a > moderator out there can we just kill the topic? > > Lets move along. :)+1 here. Who can't stand systemd, explore other systems. Ask me off the list, I'll do my best to advise on some. And let's focus on technical CentOS related topics here. Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 01/27/2016 08:02 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Sylvain CANOINE wrote: >>> De: "Jonathan Billings" <billings at negate.org> > >>> Maybe you're not aware of it, but there are a LOT of things that >>> systemd fixes that people are happy about. > >> Like what ? I don't remember there were as many errors to fix before >> systemd appeared. >> > Agreed. The speed of boot and shutdown? Whoop-de-do. I've got HP servers > that take about 70 second BEFORE THE LOGO ever comes up, just blank > screen, before POST. And my servers - for at least a lot of them, I've got > once a month maintenance windows to reboot. Some, maybe once every three > months. Why should I care about speed of reboot? That matters on someone's > laptop, but the rest? > > Or the annoyance with NetMangler, that in 7 is not only noisy, but keeps > wanting to do stuff with wifi... on a wired workstation, and I have yet to > figure out how to shut it up. > > Or systemctl restart somethingorother, that gives *ZERO* warm fuzzies > while running, just nothing, and you have to run another command to find > out what happened. Or the non-plain-text configuration files, which are > just *wonderful* NOT when you're in linux rescue. > > Just because you *can* do something does not mean you *should*. > > markAlso agreed. yes, systemd IS faster but NOT as easy to troubleshoot. NOT at all. -- -------------------------------------------- MzK "Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." -- Carl Bard