Valeri Galtsev wrote:> > On Thu, December 3, 2015 4:28 am, Leon Fauster wrote: >> Am 03.12.2015 um 11:08 schrieb Greg Lindahl <lindahl at pbm.com>: >>> I wanted to help you by making sure that you were on the most recent >>> version, but, looking at the Centos.org website I was unable to figure >>> out if 7.2 was the tip. 7.1503? Is that 7.2? Beats me. >> >> CentOS 7.1511 (aka '7.2') not yet released ... > > aka 7.2, huh? auka 7.2 would be more appropriate IMHO (by auka meaning > Also UnKnown As). Seriously, the scheme is awfully obscure. Our > proficiemcy becomes aking the one of MS Windows admins: you just need to > learn new names or locations of yet the same tools. > > Sorry, I forgot to pus sarcasm tags... >Agreed. I don't want "hints", and I'm not doing fedora or ubuntu, because I don't want the LATESTGREATESTBLEEDINGEDGETIP, I want *stability*, and, since we're supposed to be *enterprise* grade, I want stuff that's simple enough for a poor ol' sysadmin, who might have to explain to a manager what we're on.... mark
Am 03.12.2015 um 15:40 schrieb m.roth at 5-cent.us:> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> On Thu, December 3, 2015 4:28 am, Leon Fauster wrote: >>> Am 03.12.2015 um 11:08 schrieb Greg Lindahl <lindahl at pbm.com>: >>> >>> CentOS 7.1511 (aka '7.2') not yet released ... >> >> aka 7.2, huh? auka 7.2 would be more appropriate IMHO (by auka meaning >> Also UnKnown As). Seriously, the scheme is awfully obscure. Our >> proficiemcy becomes aking the one of MS Windows admins: you just need to >> learn new names or locations of yet the same tools. >> >> Sorry, I forgot to pus sarcasm tags... >> > Agreed. I don't want "hints", and I'm not doing fedora or ubuntu, because > I don't want the LATESTGREATESTBLEEDINGEDGETIP, I want *stability*, and, > since we're supposed to be *enterprise* grade, I want stuff that's simple > enough for a poor ol' sysadmin, who might have to explain to a manager > what we're on....well - for CentOS there is only one state where you should be - on the "latest". -- LF
Leon Fauster wrote:> Am 03.12.2015 um 15:40 schrieb m.roth at 5-cent.us: >> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, December 3, 2015 4:28 am, Leon Fauster wrote: >>>> Am 03.12.2015 um 11:08 schrieb Greg Lindahl <lindahl at pbm.com>: >>>> >>>> CentOS 7.1511 (aka '7.2') not yet released ... >>> >>> aka 7.2, huh? auka 7.2 would be more appropriate IMHO (by auka meaning >>> Also UnKnown As). Seriously, the scheme is awfully obscure. Our >>> proficiemcy becomes aking the one of MS Windows admins: you just need >>> to learn new names or locations of yet the same tools. >>> >>> Sorry, I forgot to pus sarcasm tags... >>> >> Agreed. I don't want "hints", and I'm not doing fedora or ubuntu, >> because I don't want the LATESTGREATESTBLEEDINGEDGETIP, I want >> *stability*, and, since we're supposed to be *enterprise* grade, >> I want stuff that's simple enough for a poor ol' sysadmin, who >> might have to explain to a manager what we're on.... > > well - for CentOS there is only one state where you should be - on the > "latest".Sorry, you seem to not have dealt with enough managers who only really know Windows, or other divisions (esp. ones that are 95% Windows) who require documentation, etc.... I can live with the x.y.yymm, but not showing the relation to upstream is annoying. mark
On Thu, December 3, 2015 9:49 am, Leon Fauster wrote:> Am 03.12.2015 um 15:40 schrieb m.roth at 5-cent.us: >> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, December 3, 2015 4:28 am, Leon Fauster wrote: >>>> Am 03.12.2015 um 11:08 schrieb Greg Lindahl <lindahl at pbm.com>: >>>> >>>> CentOS 7.1511 (aka '7.2') not yet released ... >>> >>> aka 7.2, huh? auka 7.2 would be more appropriate IMHO (by auka meaning >>> Also UnKnown As). Seriously, the scheme is awfully obscure. Our >>> proficiemcy becomes aking the one of MS Windows admins: you just need >>> to >>> learn new names or locations of yet the same tools. >>> >>> Sorry, I forgot to pus sarcasm tags... >>> >> Agreed. I don't want "hints", and I'm not doing fedora or ubuntu, >> because >> I don't want the LATESTGREATESTBLEEDINGEDGETIP, I want *stability*, and, >> since we're supposed to be *enterprise* grade, I want stuff that's >> simple >> enough for a poor ol' sysadmin, who might have to explain to a manager >> what we're on.... > > well - for CentOS there is only one state where you should be - on the > "latest". >I agree if by "latest" you mean either of latest 5, latest 6, latest 7. Still, it would be good to realize what CentOS latest 7 resembles to on the side of upstream, meaning RHEL 7.x - which "x"? Hypothetically, I know that binary only distributed "something" works on RHEL 7.2. Will it be reasonable to assume it will work on my "binary compatible" CentOS? If it is CentOS 7.2, I wouldn't have trouble concluding it will work. If it is 7.1234567... I'm lost (my number comes from sarcasm, I learned the year/month origin already ;-) Sorry about trivial argument which I bet was repeated by many already. On the other hand why I'm arguing about CentOS 7 which I downgraded to workstation use only and servers are being migrated to FreeBSD (sorry about mentioning - this time will be really the last one) as CentOS 5 or CentOS 6 are phased out. Just my $0.02 Valeri> -- > LF > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++