On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 10:55:55AM -0500, Jason Warr wrote:> I think that you need to simplify #1 to: > > 1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS > > As that is really all that matters and so that people can't argue that you > are making a statement of knowledge about what/why Red Hat's lawyers have > decided. It does not matter on these lists WHY they don't ship it, just > that they don't.According to https://access.redhat.com/solutions/79633 :> Root Cause> ZFS is not included in the upstream Linux kernel. Red Hat applies an > "upstream first" policy for kernel modules (including > filesystems). Without upstream presence, ZFS will not be provided nor > supported by Red Hat.There's a lot of "I Am not a lawyer, but..." discussion in the comments, but I think this is the best answer from Red Hat as to why they don't ship ZFS. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
On Mon, June 1, 2015 11:06 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:> On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 10:55:55AM -0500, Jason Warr wrote: >> I think that you need to simplify #1 to: >> >> 1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS >> >> As that is really all that matters and so that people can't argue that >> you >> are making a statement of knowledge about what/why Red Hat's lawyers >> have >> decided. It does not matter on these lists WHY they don't ship it, just >> that they don't. > > According to https://access.redhat.com/solutions/79633 :Hm... this best answer is meant for RedHat Enterprise subscribers' eyes only... Even though my University has a subscription, I'm sort of reluctant to use it just to read this answer. In a couple of non-confidential words, what is the answer? Valeri> >> Root Cause > >> ZFS is not included in the upstream Linux kernel. Red Hat applies an >> "upstream first" policy for kernel modules (including >> filesystems). Without upstream presence, ZFS will not be provided nor >> supported by Red Hat. > > There's a lot of "I Am not a lawyer, but..." discussion in the > comments, but I think this is the best answer from Red Hat as to why > they don't ship ZFS. > > -- > Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org> > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:06:20 -0500, Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org> wrote:> On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 10:55:55AM -0500, Jason Warr wrote: >> I think that you need to simplify #1 to: >> >> 1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS >> >> As that is really all that matters and so that people can't argue that >> you >> are making a statement of knowledge about what/why Red Hat's lawyers >> have >> decided. It does not matter on these lists WHY they don't ship it, just >> that they don't. > > According to https://access.redhat.com/solutions/79633 : > >> Root Cause > >> ZFS is not included in the upstream Linux kernel. Red Hat applies an >> "upstream first" policy for kernel modules (including >> filesystems). Without upstream presence, ZFS will not be provided nor >> supported by Red Hat. > > There's a lot of "I Am not a lawyer, but..." discussion in the > comments, but I think this is the best answer from Red Hat as to why > they don't ship ZFS. >And in my experience with Red Hat is the only thing that has any chance of changing that is if a big enough customer(s) demand it. It has to make economic sense for them and at this stage it apparently does not.
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 11:11:56AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> On Mon, June 1, 2015 11:06 am, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > According to https://access.redhat.com/solutions/79633 : > > Hm... this best answer is meant for RedHat Enterprise subscribers' eyes > only... > > Even though my University has a subscription, I'm sort of reluctant to use > it just to read this answer. In a couple of non-confidential words, what > is the answer?Sorry, I copy-pasted the "Root Cause" in my earlier email. The "Root Cause" explains the negative answer to the question "Does Red Hat Enterprise Linux support ZFS Filesystem?". Its a short article. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>