On Thu, April 2, 2015 4:27 pm, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> > On Thu, April 2, 2015 4:11 pm, J Martin Rushton wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Sorry to mention the "opposition" here, but I have a family member's >> laptop to protect, and I'm not allowed to upgrade it to Linux. What's >> the current best recommendation? > > For privately owned machine I would recommend > > free.avg.com > > - one free installation per household is permitted by license. I only am > testing (and would rather welcome comments): immunet 3 (based on clamav > which I use for long time on Unix mail servers), I have it installed on a > few machine that unlikely ever will see any visus, hence I do not have > sufficient "battle ground" experience with immunet 3.One thing I forgot to mention: I also always recommend AGAINST using kasperski. Kasperski is KGB guy (*cough* *cough* retired. You know in that service retirement is only feet first dead, so you do your math). Valeri> > Valeri > >> Thanks, >> MArtin >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVHbCMAAoJEAF3yXsqtyBl4I8P/AsvH+cyGcG9PDtL8I091WJc >> jaAhT8Z77G8LBTNaCUi1NXaR3zYsxZ1LltS8MyyqpA+TZ5TkwGRI5V0g2h5owrXv >> vmFNHW4DQcnB5D4s5+B50lnjyIWgtLG0BKUwCgLik++U11umHd5sCTqXTaHzlyP8 >> Ndz2RAVEm9A8T3My7fKeVF+/c2pt6rKaRoifeTiH+IUnmvuFHPHuQEpLuOx0qKLH >> BCHyg7ZJcpwQEocYMhZu7JkZ/zg5/eCb+0HIq5qOCkeRj64ax0QOMzlvcScBRQDp >> tBzXIAXnFGMNmgE8tvD9Xh2Gi/OKx/bbqRdo8mMzUGUlWSErSt2UMPkpN3Vm3S2C >> wQhSqMoNnxWCypofazmIXH+TKn1/ipUhZXF3GcZsBYDfIb95kvdBrJm//QioI8Fy >> BFGc5Cj9DjXNxIbCfvQuyrG1RDdwHKjt/AMmoB0RXpSwhxRfS2749gyrkGXRUSSd >> IFRpX8Ds0quxx8D9YY96FYX4VbPFhFKIm64OigjLOenedek4A0TpUg7tF5HpyDA7 >> SXl/l9wFbqAOIKR+VYHIix9UPqxUkU/6fio1D/RhD+8gulY9Tj4Bx5vjpVkJm4wY >> +Dj0VZ6LyhhkkOTypvENrY2imyxJ+MQ/xKiBQCcvGJIkNcxKr3Xd9D6cFkkkZWR7 >> bAaC26I/cC4witLZSC2k >> =1XHp >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> One thing I forgot to mention: I also always recommend AGAINST using > kasperski. Kasperski is KGB guy (*cough* *cough* retired. You know in > that > service retirement is only feet first dead, so you do your math).Is KGB rant still in vogue in your new homeland?
Well them plus CIA, NSA, Barney the Dinosaur and Teletubbies. Brian Bernard On Apr 2, 2015 5:58 PM, "????????? ????????" <nevis2us at infoline.su> wrote:> One thing I forgot to mention: I also always recommend AGAINST using >> kasperski. Kasperski is KGB guy (*cough* *cough* retired. You know in that >> service retirement is only feet first dead, so you do your math). >> > > Is KGB rant still in vogue in your new homeland? > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 00:57 +0300, ????????? ???????? wrote:> > One thing I forgot to mention: I also always recommend AGAINST using > > kasperski. Kasperski is KGB guy (*cough* *cough* retired. You know in > > that > > service retirement is only feet first dead, so you do your math). > > Is KGB rant still in vogue in your new homeland?Isn't it the FSB these days ? Anyone ever in an intelligence service never ever completely retires. They do tasks when asked and voluntarily pass information to their organisation. Intelligence services do things most people would never ever imagine - its their job. So Kasperski is definitely suspect software despite UK bank Barclays giving it freely to their Windoze customers. With Putin rearming and expanding military forces for about the last 10 years, authorising probing flights by military aircraft, incursions by submarines, invasion of Ukraine, shooting-down the civilian flight above Ukraine, vetoing UN intervention in Syria because of the Russian naval base in Syria ....... Don't forget Putin was the 'resident' Russian spy in Germany and a senior officer in the Russian spies, who has many links to the Russian mafia especially to the Russian mafia in Cyprus and more recently in southern Spain. Perhaps those in the west have better access to information ? To avoid upsetting Centos bosses please send any responses off-list. Thank you. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Je suis Charlie.
On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 10:17 +0300, ????????? ???????? wrote:> Paul, world's a big place. We just see many things differently. > The West pretends the rules invented by the West are universal. They are > not.Hi ????????? (Aleksandr, Alexander), Agreed. The West is far from perfect and has a terrible history of supporting corrupt and brutal regimes as well as subverting some democratically elected governments that were not pro-USA. Any intelligent service would love to get internal access to as many computers as possible. Kasperski (from the largest country in the world) is a potential weakness. So too are the USA anti-virus Windoze packages which ignore penetrations by Uncle Sam (special 'virus' signatures accepted). Conversely non-Windoze machines running Linux, BSDs etc. are inherently more safe. It is good that many people from different countries, different religions, different customs and different daylight hours can peacefully unite in their collective use and enjoyment of Centos.> Je ne suis pas Charlie.Pourquoi ? Did those people, the attackers and their victims, really need to die ? We have only 1 life. Best regards, Paul.
On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 17:35 +0100, Always Learning wrote:> Hi ????????? (Aleksandr, Alexander),Apologies to all. That should have gone privately off-list. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Je suis Charlie.