CentOS - Feb 2015 - Thread moderation and list etiquette (Reference - Another Fedora Decision)

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Brian Mathis
<brian.mathis+centos at betteradmin.com> wrote:
> CentOS is unquestionably one of the most used Linux distros
> in the world, and yet the mailing list is relatively quiet.  To me this is
> a symptom of a problem, and I feel that it's partially a result of the
same
> regular people,
I think it is generally a good thing when the bulk of the conversation
here is ranting about mostly irrelevant opinions.   That is, instead
of 'Why doesn't this work"', or 'How do I fix this
problem" that you
would have if there were something fundamentally wrong with the disto.

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   Les Mikesell
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On 12 February 2015 at 19:08, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Brian Mathis
> <brian.mathis+centos at betteradmin.com> wrote:
> > CentOS is unquestionably one of the most used Linux distros
> > in the world, and yet the mailing list is relatively quiet.  To me
this
> is
> > a symptom of a problem, and I feel that it's partially a result of
the
> same
> > regular people,
>
> I think it is generally a good thing when the bulk of the conversation
> here is ranting about mostly irrelevant opinions.   That is, instead
> of 'Why doesn't this work"', or 'How do I fix this
problem" that you
> would have if there were something fundamentally wrong with the disto.
>
Indeed!

I think this kind of thing is an artefact of a vibrant and involved
community. I generally find the people on this list to be well informed and
passionate. The internet was made for flaming and trolling! Whilst it nice
for someone to step in, break up the fight when it gets a bit too hot it
would be a shame to clamp down on it too hard.

On 12/02/15 18:08, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Brian Mathis
> <brian.mathis+centos at betteradmin.com> wrote:
>> CentOS is unquestionably one of the most used Linux distros
>> in the world, and yet the mailing list is relatively quiet.  To me this
is
>> a symptom of a problem, and I feel that it's partially a result of
the same
>> regular people,
> 
> I think it is generally a good thing when the bulk of the conversation
> here is ranting about mostly irrelevant opinions.   That is, instead
yes, lots of irrelevant conversation on the list - and it comes from a
handful of users. Its irrelevant, take it to an irrelevant venue.
> of 'Why doesn't this work"', or 'How do I fix this
problem" that you
> would have if there were something fundamentally wrong with the disto.
By assuming that the mailing list is a bug reporting venue, you miss the
entire point of what a community might be.

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On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists at karan.org>
wrote:
> >>
>> I think it is generally a good thing when the bulk of the conversation
>> here is ranting about mostly irrelevant opinions.   That is, instead
>
> yes, lots of irrelevant conversation on the list - and it comes from a
> handful of users. Its irrelevant, take it to an irrelevant venue.
>
>> of 'Why doesn't this work"', or 'How do I fix this
problem" that you
>> would have if there were something fundamentally wrong with the disto.
>
> By assuming that the mailing list is a bug reporting venue, you miss the
> entire point of what a community might be.
Agreed, but second-guessing other people's opinions and moderating
what they can say is pretty shaky ground too...   I'm just saying
that's what happens when there aren't bugs to report and generic
'how
to' questions tend to be met with a 'go google it yourself'
response.

It would sort of nice if there were a way to sort pure-technical stuff
from 'slightly-related' and 'way-off-topic' postings so actual
conversations could run their course without mangling the list's
purpose.   But I don't have any idea how to manage that...

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   Les Mikesell
     lesmikesell at gmail.com

On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 18:09 +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> yes, lots of irrelevant conversation on the list - and it comes from a
> handful of users. Its irrelevant, take it to an irrelevant venue.
	centos.misc at centos.org
	centos.ot at centos.org ?
	chat at centos.org


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