CentOS - Feb 2015 - Another Fedora decision

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 21:32 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> Indeed I should have said "allegedly pirated" not just
"pirated". As I
> don't care to go into details if it is or it isn't. I also would
recommend
> to finish this discussion and those who feel so get themselves some
> fundamental book and go ahead with reading it. Which I'm going to do
> myself (there are things I need to read...)
On my desk I have a copy of 'The Book'. I got it free of all costs. It
is not mine. I did not buy it or otherwise make a payment to possess it.
It has the same copyright notice inside. It does not state "Pirate
Copy"
anywhere on the covers or inside. Hopefully I am lawfully allow to read
it ?

Before an unnecessary riot starts perhaps I should mention I've borrowed
'The Book' from a public library :-)


-- 
Regards,

Paul.
England, EU.      Je suis Charlie.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Always Learning <centos at u64.u22.net>
wrote:
> Before an unnecessary riot starts perhaps I should mention I've
borrowed
> 'The Book' from a public library :-)
FYI my comments are restricted the PDF floating around of the
recommended UNIX and Linux System Admin book. That's definitely not
legit.

What libraries offer is not only legal, it's important to keep this
intact. Publishers have variably been very unreasonable abrogating the
first-sale doctrine when it comes to ebook versions. It's a case where
I believe in no shade of gray. If I'm led to believe I've bought an
ebook, not merely renting it, then I should have the right to give
that ebook to a library, school, friend, leave it in an estate to
children. And quite a number of publishers deny this doctrine applies
to ebooks. Not good.

-- 
Chris Murphy

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 21:04 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> What libraries offer is not only legal, it's important to keep this
> intact. Publishers have variably been very unreasonable abrogating the
> first-sale doctrine when it comes to ebook versions. It's a case where
> I believe in no shade of gray. If I'm led to believe I've bought an
> ebook, not merely renting it, then I should have the right to give
> that ebook to a library, school, friend, leave it in an estate to
> children. And quite a number of publishers deny this doctrine applies
> to ebooks. Not good.
My considered opinion is:-

PDF copies, as produced by the publisher, should be sold for no more
than USD $ 10.00 per copy with 30% going directly to the author. At
present publishers are far too greedy. Their lust for the public's cash
is detrimental to learning generally and to the distribution of
knowledge. 

Many years ago, before I sold my soul to the computer world for GBP ?2
per week extra pay, bookshops received between 45% and 55% discount.
PDFs require no storage space in premises, no heating, no building
insurance, no public liability insurance, no staffing costs etc. etc.
Consequently it is unreasonable for the publisher and/or the distributor
to retain most of the income from PDF and other e-book format sales.
They are doing virtually no work but profiteering enormously from the
author's hard work.

Admittedly it is possible for sellers to sell cloned copies of PDFs.
However it must be possible to overprint every page in a PDF with a
sellers receipt number or publisher's copy-serial-number which could be
entered on a web site when seeking errata and extras associated with
possession of the publication - or even registering possession of a copy
for future updates and associated information.


-- 
Regards,

Paul.
England, EU.      Je suis Charlie.