I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat making a move to throw off centos compilations. I read some stories about microsoft wanting to work closer with centos http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/17/microsoft_and_centos/ I have to update to centos 6 due to some needs of clients who need newer mysql and php (and installing them on centos5 was too hard for me). I am thinking of going ubuntu server but at the same time I have this feeling centos team will pull through, make a new method to streamline this, and redhat will back down and stop being REDa$$-hats. Redhat thinks us 'freebie' people will move to them to get the quicker updates and releases. I look at the pricing and I say they must be out of their minds. The server comes at 1,999 a year for 2 sockets and more than 4 guests...which is what I would need. The virtualization package, which may or may not be needed is thousands more. All for one server. that ain't gonna happen. Personally I am thinking of staying away from all red hat clones due to redhat's actions for my own security. The only thing on the horizon I see is ubuntu server as best supported and up to date. I am teetering tonight. I have downloaded it and am thinking of wiping my new centos6 install and trying it out. How do you all feel about this turn of events and what is your gut feeling on where this is going? And how about them hard drive prices?!!
2011/11/1 Bob Hoffman <bob at bobhoffman.com>:> I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat > making a move to throw off centos compilations. > I read some stories about microsoft wanting to work closer with centos > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/17/microsoft_and_centos/ > > I have to update to centos 6 due to some needs of clients who need newer > mysql and php (and installing them on centos5 > was too hard for me).You can get updated php and mysql from ius community repo. http://iuscommunity.org/ br, -- Eero, RHCE
On 11/01/2011 01:46 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote:> I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat > making a move to throw off centos compilations.Having spoken to folks at Red Hat in an unofficial capacity, I strongly believe that CentOS is appreciated by Red Hat. Changes Red Hat makes have nothing to do with "throwing off" CentOS. They do what they do for reasons that, to them, make technical and business sense. Nothing more. -- Digimer E-Mail: digimer at alteeve.com Freenode handle: digimer Papers and Projects: http://alteeve.com Node Assassin: http://nodeassassin.org "omg my singularity battery is dead again. stupid hawking radiation." - epitron
----- Original Message -----> From: "Bob Hoffman" <bob at bobhoffman.com> > To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:46:57 PM > Subject: [CentOS] redhat vs centos > > I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about > redhat > making a move to throw off centos compilations. > I read some stories about microsoft wanting to work closer with > centos > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/17/microsoft_and_centos/ > > I have to update to centos 6 due to some needs of clients who need > newer > mysql and php (and installing them on centos5 > was too hard for me). > > I am thinking of going ubuntu server but at the same time I have this > feeling centos team will pull through, make a new method to > streamline > this, and redhat will back down and stop being REDa$$-hats. > > Redhat thinks us 'freebie' people will move to them to get the > quicker > updates and releases. > I look at the pricing and I say they must be out of their minds. > The server comes at 1,999 a year for 2 sockets and more than 4 > guests...which is what I would need. > The virtualization package, which may or may not be needed is > thousands > more. > All for one server. >You can go with the self support option. Seeing you are willing to go with CentOS as long as there are timely updates. That tells me you dont really care about getting "support" from the vendor. You can pick up workstation self support for $50 and server for $350 a year. That means you will get all the updates but just can't call or open tickets with Redhat. The limitations imposed by Redhat for "Support" they will provide are artificial. Although Redhat says it will only support 2 sockets and x amount of virtual guests you can still do it.> that ain't gonna happen. > > Personally I am thinking of staying away from all red hat clones due > to > redhat's actions for my own security. > The only thing on the horizon I see is ubuntu server as best > supported > and up to date. > > I am teetering tonight. I have downloaded it and am thinking of > wiping > my new centos6 install and trying it out. > > How do you all feel about this turn of events and what is your gut > feeling on where this is going? > And how about them hard drive prices?!! >
On Tuesday, November 01, 2011 01:46:57 AM Bob Hoffman wrote:> Personally I am thinking of staying away from all red hat clones due to > redhat's actions for my own security. > The only thing on the horizon I see is ubuntu server as best supported > and up to date.There are really two good enterprise-grade alternatives, in my opinion, one free and one not: 1.) SuSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES); 2.) Debian Stable. I've had some issues with Ubuntu LTS in the past; perhaps they've worked those out, but since they're somewhat based off of Debian, why not go to the source if you're going to go 'Debian-like?'
On Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:44:27 PM Les Mikesell wrote:> Does Debian include all the same drivers as Ubuntu these days?Sounds like a question for a Debian list, not here.
On Wednesday, November 02, 2011 03:19:07 PM Marcio Carneiro wrote:> 2011/11/2 Lamar Owen <lowen at pari.edu> > > There are really two good enterprise-grade alternatives, in my opinion, > > one free and one not:> OpenIndiana.orgI was limiting myself to Linux, and I really should have said so. If any unix-like system is fair game, then OpenBSD would be my top alternative to CentOS or another RHEL rebuild. I prefer CentOS, personally, but if we're talking alternatives it is useful to have a good feel for what you're going to get before it becomes an issue.